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DragonSis
11-24-2010, 04:48 AM
Hello
First of all . i wanted to write this guide long time before . but nothing encouraged me to do so . beside En Ma .he first one wanted me to write it . i was really busy back then so i promised i i wll do it later .
so now i am fulfill my promise ;)

ok lets start :
Master Summoner
Master Summoner is class that in right hands . best class on pvp . espicaly later game ...i also wann say .its hardest class to play until lv 70 .so if you later game player. hardcore and have alot of $$ . this class really fit you
MS(Master SUmmoner) very fixable class .it can be great HEALER .or Great DPSER. good at tanking . its really depends your play style . if you like me . who like everything to be in class .then this class is best
i call it Hybrid class .

ok lets seriously start :
builds : there is many and many builds for MS

Pure Str : this is the pve class . really strong pve and fast lvling (comparing to other build ) its not the best build for pvp . but its good at pk
Str\Sta : this personly my build . good pve good pvp . still isn't like pure str or pure sta . but it do it job very well . i have no problem in my ms so far
UPDATED :
pure sta : this is the pvp build . if i might add really good for pve as well at later lvl if you can finish DT you get stones Sta to attack which will add alot to your dmg .of curse you wont be like pure str . bt you will be compared to str\sta build bt with higher hp . i strongly suggest that .

this builld i high suggest

reason

there is stones STA TO ME
and stones STA TO ATTACK
and stones STR TO STA

first one if you going to be healler . when you hit higher lvl means higher stamina means higher ME .you will able to heal 4000-6000
2nd thing . is really when you out of party.you can dps well"not liek pure str" but that is very good .you wont die .or need health potion
and 3rd one for pk and pvp . in pk and pvp you need nothing more than HP


our class is hybrid .sta is hybird which dose match
Pure Spr : this build is best for DT and instance you will be Stronger then De\DR in single target healer . at lv 60 when you get your talisman lv 60 rank 3 . you will be able to heal vigor . and heal about 2k heal .of curse this build will require alot of ME (Magic effect ) gears and pet.you will have lowest dmg output comparing to de and others .bt you healer anyway who cares :D . gears and pet i will talk about them late


now lets talk more deeply :
Talismans :

from lv 1 to 40
you will have some problem with dps out put .w\e the build you chose don't be in rush our class is later gamer .so its ok ;)
when you get your talisman lv 10 .max it as soon as possible (join guild so you get daily stones to lvl it ) .it skill heal your hp and mp by 1k (if draco) bt you need the green summon on the field or you wont be able to use it . cooldown 6min .cast time 3sec
then get lv 20 quest and smelt lv 10 . you really don't have to waste your money on your lv 20 talisman its ultra useless in no pvp or pk . you wont pvp or pk until your lv 50+ .so don't really need it keep it until you get some money.it skill a stun for 2 sec .ignoring block bt easy dodge .cast time 2 sec
get your lv 30 talisman (which there is guide how to get for Feral Girl)
your lv 30 is first dps one . without it you will have hard time lvling from lv 30 to 50 so get it soon and max it . it skill make your normal attack an aoe cast time 1 sec . cooldown : 2min
your lv 40 talisman : ignore it .must useless talisman for MS .even if you have money .just ignore it ;)
your gears in this lvl :i suggest you get craft man gears from craft master quests.there is guild for Feral Girl how to get it as well ;)

now must improtant lvl range for MS :
lv 40 to 60 . here where you should chose your path .
from lv 40 to 50 .normaly way get gears from devil tower (ask your guild how to go in)use lv 30 tlaisman until your lv50 ,,
when you reach i strongly suggest you to get lv 50 talisman .its tanking talisman also with good stats for devil tower (you will have to do devil tower for gears and exp ) -you go with your talent point with this talisman as fit your style but i suggest add the mp and vigor . its really helpful ;)-
after you draco it .DO NOT SMELT IT . DO NOT SMELT it . smelt your lv 30 talisman . and keep your lv50 separated
when you reach your lv 60 . get your talisman lv 60 rank 2 ( from goverment quests rank 8 you need 60 mark to get it) '
this is our 2nd dps talisman .its easy to go with talent point . more dmg more critec and more critec damage . this talisman after you max it . smelt it .it skill add +320 def +100 damge for 30 sec cooldown 3min ...
now we will get our first healing talisman . lv 60 rank 3 . its add 130ME (which add 200 heals) + mana reg (alot of mana reg) you will be able to cure vigor by6 each heal (thats alot .i can keep healing my self while 2 pking me without dieing) and alot of spr (mana ) will come from it .now with this talisman the spr build will shine and rise . you will be needed for instances more then DE.you will be great help in woc . no one will die under your hands . DT will be joke for you . this the time that MS healer will shine ..
as all other build using this talisman will make us heal good and make us unkillable .well if you aren't Spr build go with talisman as Tanking points (dmg recive -5% . reseit crtiec -5%,get mp +250 , reduce bluff cooldown )really useful for lvling at higher zoon .don't worry all other build we will shine with our lv 70 rank 3 talisman.
lvl 60 rank 3 skill : make your divine solder ranged attack reducing the dmg he recive by 90% .and he will start dealing 100 dmg each hit .very usful for floor 17 and 18 in devil tower ;)
from lv 60 to 70 . is must difficult time for MS
we don't have any aoes . we don't have any real dmg out put yet . comparing to other we just trash in this zoon .its ok . at lv 68 we will get our first aoe .its kinda same as lv 62 blade warden skill . aoe that 1 sec cast time .and go in area for 10 sec cooldown 30sec.its come along with greater scrfice skill .they both combine together( since our class require us to do alot of combining between skills )
but when you reach 70 . and get your talisman .it talent point add alot to our dmg out put . and skill ignore deffs of target which also combine with our lv 68 + greater scrfice .so when we go in pk group pk . we send our general then greater scrfice then lv 70 rank 3 skill .then lv68 skill.they must likely will die (if not tankers ) after lv 70 ms is class that best role in instances ( becouse we have stuns .roll .cleans and other skill ) anyway when you will reach your lv 70 you will be pro .so you wont need any more guiding
oh lol i forgot .when you reach lv 68 smelt your lv 50 rank 2 . it has aoe skill .its totaly useless before lv 68 ;)
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PETS :

as ms you should have 3 pets :-note: don't worry about your pet anyway until you reach lv 60 and able to use sacred pets :
first Pet ms will need is : 77xx(xx is w\e) you need double stats on str and sta with 7 stats . to get the unique ability ( ask your friend how) .this is your pvp pet and pk .get more hp for pvp .more dps for pk .
2nd pet is :x77x . same as above this is healing one . you will use in devil tower (mt and normal one) this is main pet for spr build as well
3rd pet : 7707 . this is your pve pet . when you no instance,pvp,and pk . you will use this pet . add more dps and more def .because we kinda squishy at higher zone .
of curse all pet need to be 99GR or higher (100) .it will be useless to have high stats bt no skill point
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skills :
well its easy .lvl up all skills beside soldier of fortune (divine soldier) its useless to lvl it and will cost you more MP to summon if you lvl it
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to be continue

DragonSis
11-24-2010, 04:51 AM
now to some simulated questions :
1- why you suggest us to make MS ?
i never suggested that .if you aren't hardcore and not willing to spend time on this game .chose any other class MS is hardest one .but on other hand :
you will be always welcome to parties raid because you will go into any role they want you to be (even tanker.i did play as tanker when i reached 50 i was tanking scraphead 2 all the time never die ) .and must powerful in pk (you will be even targeted before healers ) lets not to mention you later game class. and have many many options on how to go with it . so if you got bored of being healer simply change your talisman . same if you got bored of being dps.
2-dos MS use alot of HP and MP ? (health potions and mana potions)
well really depends if you going instances with BW or FM and oyu need to heal . it will cost you 25-30 for normal MS.as SPr MS will cost you 15-20MP.when you get your talisman lv 603(lv 60 rank 3) will cost you about 10 mana potions
about health potions. since i reached lv 50 to now i used about 100 health potions (including Thunder test) we don't use HP at all . i even use restore potions more hten HP and mp cheaper and faster (restore potions add hp\mp same time )
3-what kind the pvp for ms ?
hit and run . we have no cast time on our skill at all . which make it hard to dodge our stuns .(beside lv 20 talisman)

4-any strategy for pvp and pk ?
well that need whole 3 pages to talk about . because as ms its normal to lose first match or even 2nd . we as game call us Smart Class. we stimulate the skills and cooldowns and how the opposite play in order to win .
bt only suggest i can offer is genreal suggestions .use bluff when ever you can . keep your healing buffs up . and use your general smart (with greater scrfice without it we lose all pvps) keep on kitting don't stand at all we spammer class . nno cast time on our skill so run hit run hit ;)

5-how long would it take me to lv60?
well if you were lucky and got master you need 5 days to reach lv 50 and other 5 days to reach 55 . and 10 days to reach 60 .hard work . we slowest class in lvling (even de lvl faster)

6- i did not understand many things you said .could you help mE?
sure just ask i will be here for next week ;)


Have Nice day . and good luck brother and sister master summoners ;)



note : sorry for my english . as you can see .this is my first guide i ever made . also english isn't my first language . anyway fell free to add feedback or even remake the thread ;)

DragonSis
11-24-2010, 04:54 AM
reserved for more

En Ma
11-24-2010, 01:38 PM
nice job, thumbs up :D

Kumo
11-25-2010, 10:34 AM
Rawr, i wish i still played my ms :D

lanwe
11-25-2010, 11:06 AM
I agree with your entire post except the leveling part unless you are going pure stamina ~_~. Lucky draw is probably the most mana efficient nuke in the entire game lol. Especially after you hit 50 between the level 50 talisman skill and the lvl 30 talisman skill which you should already have merged a MS just mows through mobs. We can solo almost any elite including the harder elites with very little problems and the ones that do give us problems we can kite like champs ;).

You should also include in your guide that are skills are Physical Damage and so Ignore Armor is a good stat :)

jerk86
11-27-2010, 06:23 AM
Sorry to trouble you guys, but apparently you guys have more experience with the MS class in Zentia.

Do bear with me as I have 4 questions in total to ask (as of now :D).

1)Why is stam good for PVP? With 120 attribute points in stam will only result in 1200 hp.

In LittleSis's guide, a heal after getting LVL 60 Rank 3 talisman heals about 2k. Won't going full SPR be better at 1V1 PVP since 1200 mp allows you to heal 10 times more at LVL 71 which equals to about 20k?

Won't that make you last longer in 1V1 PVP?

2)How much does the DT STAM to Damage stone convert?

3)How many DT STAM to Damage stones can we use?

4)With a hp of say 3k, would we get 1 shot (Or killed so quickly that we won't have time to heal) by classes like ETC. BW, FM, RW at higher levels?

Phew, that was a long post eh? :D

Thank you and hope to hear from you guys soon! :)


Regards,
Jerk86

Kumo
11-27-2010, 06:39 AM
Sorry to trouble you guys, but apparently you guys have more experience with the MS class in Zentia.

Do bear with me as I have 4 questions in total to ask (as of now :D).

1)Why is stam good for PVP? With 120 attribute points in stam will only result in 1200 hp.

In LittleSis's guide, a heal after getting LVL 60 Rank 3 talisman heals about 2k. Won't going full SPR be better at 1V1 PVP since 1200 mp allows you to heal 10 times more at LVL 71 which equals to about 20k?

Won't that make you last longer in 1V1 PVP?

2)How much does the DT STAM to Damage stone convert?

3)How many DT STAM to Damage stones can we use?

4)With a hp of say 3k, would we get 1 shot (Or killed so quickly that we won't have time to heal) by classes like ETC. BW, FM, RW at higher levels?

Phew, that was a long post eh? :D

Thank you and hope to hear from you guys soon! :)


Regards,
Jerk86

I'll try and answer it, but I'm not as pro as other forementioned mses.

1. If you have 1200 hp then that gives you a greater chance of not getting 1 hitted by say an fm. Plus Sta for some reason is always considered best for pvp, as i say a better answer will come from sis or en ma or someone else.

2. If your heal is leveled up it will probably cost alot more 120 mp. If you have to sit and spam heal you cant kill them, we arent a class that is built for outlasting, thats vgs.

3. Ermm its in double figures i think

4. one per costume piece i think

5. Fm's job is to 1 hit people, bw can just freeze you in place and kill you slowly and rw are super spammy, like us. So all of the classes could kill you without much chance to fight back with 3k hp.

Anyway i could be wrong or have misplaced some info but i hope this helps :)

LittleSis
11-27-2010, 07:06 AM
Sorry to trouble you guys, but apparently you guys have more experience with the MS class in Zentia.

Do bear with me as I have 4 questions in total to ask (as of now :D).

1)Why is stam good for PVP? With 120 attribute points in stam will only result in 1200 hp.

In LittleSis's guide, a heal after getting LVL 60 Rank 3 talisman heals about 2k. Won't going full SPR be better at 1V1 PVP since 1200 mp allows you to heal 10 times more at LVL 71 which equals to about 20k?

Won't that make you last longer in 1V1 PVP?

2)How much does the DT STAM to Damage stone convert?

3)How many DT STAM to Damage stones can we use?

4)With a hp of say 3k, would we get 1 shot (Or killed so quickly that we won't have time to heal) by classes like ETC. BW, FM, RW at higher levels?

Phew, that was a long post eh? :D

Thank you and hope to hear from you guys soon! :)


Regards,
Jerk86
1- Sta is better for pvp since we will last longer.and we can't actuly heal alot in pvp . we heal in pk more then pvp .in pvp we aren't allowed to use MP potions. so when we run out of mp we dead ( we can't face enemy with normal hit ;) )
2-15% max .and can stack up twice. so 30% .+100 Sta and don't forget at lv 70 you will have naturaly 300STA without any adding to sta . i am not sure if 300 or 400 . bt anyway so about 500 .30% of 500 = 150 attack THats alot
3- up
4-we can't get 1 hit by any class beside FM .thats why FM is natural enemy of MS ;)

read this if you have time . i cleared stuff in it

even FM .they are best in sta build for pvp ...
more hp = more chance of win
and yes you can sit and spam heal . who will do dmg? beside . if you got KD chain (must likley) you dead .you can't keep on dodge while healing . anyhow i am str\sta and using lv 60 rank 3 . i made it to sty like 7 min just healing my self ( and using mp pots) until my friend came and pked who attacking me ...
its true spr can last longer. bt can't win alone ;)

btw the builds basicly ( weak) the build kinda foucse on pets more then other things.ican't revive alot of secrets about pet . bt pet with double 7 str sta . can make you so overpowered for pvp . .
the stamina build for example . you will have 1k hp + 10hp reg . +30 attack( since 15% x2 for costum .sta to attack ) and since our class is kittter not tanker or attacker . we need HP just to win agints DOTS and some spammalbe skills . its hard to get us killed by 1 hit from BW .its actuly very hard for BW to just cast 1 skill on us . we can kite all there skill so easy .
and about FM . i honsolty can't win madmonkey so i am not talking about FM .bt madmonkey is very well gered FM which make it really hard to kill him.they can 1 hit us easly with any skill they have that make it really danger to attack FM .bt anyhow when fighitng FM .we can stun lock them to death (i can win Fm if i use divine king lv 56skill) becouse with divine king i can stun lock for like 1 min and that more then enough to kill FM

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@ lanwe
you just agreed on what i said . Pure stamina is great for pvp or pve . .espicaly at later lvl . bt at pve it take more time then str build
and also i did not say anything about trouble with boss or elite mobs . MS is really massive class if used in right hands

jerk86
11-27-2010, 08:07 AM
Thanks all for the prompt replies! :eek: Really appreciate it. And I do read and re-read all the replies so no worries, no effort is wasted here.

I do agree about the part where we can kite BW well as their range is only 20 feet I believe except perhaps Sword Formation. RW too, except Death's Reach and Ghost Carry which are on 1 min CD and 30 feet.

And sadly, I've got more questions to ask. :( Do bear with me as I believe a lot of MSes out there also have these questions in mind.

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1) How much damage does a well geared FM deal with 1 shot skills?

2) Is there other type of stones available other than STAM/Dam? ETC. SPI/Dam, SPI/HP, STAM/Mana, STR/Mana?

3) Is Drain Resist useful in 1v1 PVP?

4) Does Hold Resist reduce the chance of being knocked down?

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Thank you once again for reading this and hope to hear from you guys soon! :D


Regards,
Jerk86

LittleSis
11-27-2010, 09:15 AM
Thanks all for the prompt replies! :eek: Really appreciate it. And I do read and re-read all the replies so no worries, no effort is wasted here.

I do agree about the part where we can kite BW well as their range is only 20 feet I believe except perhaps Sword Formation. RW too, except Death's Reach and Ghost Carry which are on 1 min CD and 30 feet.

And sadly, I've got more questions to ask. :( Do bear with me as I believe a lot of MSes out there also have these questions in mind.

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1) How much damage does a well geared FM deal with 1 shot skills?

2) Is there other type of stones available other than STAM/Dam? ETC. SPI/Dam, SPI/HP, STAM/Mana, STR/Mana?

3) Is Drain Resist useful in 1v1 PVP?

4) Does Hold Resist reduce the chance of being knocked down?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thank you once again for reading this and hope to hear from you guys soon! :D


Regards,
Jerk86

1- well baloth is well geared one . can deal 5k dmg on me :D
2- sprt to sta . sprt to me . str to sta . sta to attack . sprt to str .mmm i am not sure about regular one go check the shop in devil tower . bt what you get form dt floor 18 is that
3-very usful . espicaly agints DR and FM . i think drain is the main stats of pvp .which remind me i am going to add new part about restiances
4- no. it reduce time . instid of getting kd for 5 sec might be 1 sec or higher.

and sure ask much as you want . its hard class we all should help you to understand it ;)


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Quick Res guide :
Confuse : its really must usful one for Sprt Build . espicaly in boss fights (later lvl ) and some group[ pvp . since when you get confused then you be first one who break it . summon divine soldier then use sacrfice it save the day . ;) .i am hybrid str\sta and using confuse .so far i have no problem agints DRs.(which thir main weapon is confusing ) it reduce the time .i have 60 confuse . i can reduce all confuses skills by 1to 5 sec by chance of 90% .not bad tho .its really save me alot

Drain : its best stats for pvp .agints pvping FM or DR. both have some great dots . if you have enough drain restance you can own them -beside at lv 60 you will get 60 drain res + gears from searen night and searen heaven instances add +25 drain res that 85 .it kinda make all dots 0 very very very usful-

Hold : i am not sure if its for our class in first place . since getting KD is kinda stupid for us . we should dodge all KDs or we dead . i guse hold is more for healers and tankers then us the supporter

Slow : totallllly usless . summon divine soldier . use scrifce take 2 sec . better then wasting all that point on this useless res



hope you understanded it .i am talking from my ipod hard to type

Kumo
11-27-2010, 09:21 AM
Off topic: Sis, is incon hare crazy atm cos if not i'll try get my ms's property pass fixed and come back cos i've quit spoon i think :/

jerk86
11-29-2010, 03:31 AM
Hehe sorry guys was busy with work so couldn't come back and ask more questions!

Last few questions before LittleSis murders me :p

1) How much mp does full grown LVL 60 Rank 3 talisman regenerate if you max it?

2) How much HP and MP did you had when you were LVL 70 and were you well geared?

3) What is the cooldown for a LVL 20 treasure that clears away all sorts of status, ETC. fear and hold.

Thanks and hope to hear from everyone soon!

LittleSis
11-29-2010, 03:59 AM
Hehe sorry guys was busy with work so couldn't come back and ask more questions!

Last few questions before LittleSis murders me :p

1) How much mp does full grown LVL 60 Rank 3 talisman regenerate if you max it?

2) How much HP and MP did you had when you were LVL 70 and were you well geared?

3) What is the cooldown for a LVL 20 treasure that clears away all sorts of status, ETC. fear and hold.

Thanks and hope to hear from everyone soon!
1) mm full growth one .about 2700 mp if you using mp gears (oh btw you need 3 sets as well . 1 many mp for DT and healing .2 many HP for pvp and pk . 3many str for pve ;)
2)about 3.5k
3)i can't remember really . check it its in the guide book . bt we use that for healing more then leaving all sorts of statues (since we can dispel the buffs and clean debuffs ;) )

of curse you can ask as much as you want . its actuly my mistake i should stated it more .i am really sorry its my first guide ever

jerk86
11-29-2010, 06:02 AM
Wow your replies are fast :) Truely appreciate it.

LittleSis, you mean at lvl 70 you have around 3.5k hp and 3.5k mp?

Kumo
11-29-2010, 09:28 AM
Yeah jerk, ms's hp and mp are pretty balanced.

jerk86
11-29-2010, 08:13 PM
Oooh okok. I've just checked out Baloth's HP and MP today.

7k HP and 8K+ MP. He has 480+ Spirit as well resulting me to think that he added all his stat points to Spirit.

Which means to say, he gotten his 7k HP purely from gear, pet and perhaps DT stones?

Is that possible?

JudasMonk
11-30-2010, 03:41 AM
Oooh okok. I've just checked out Baloth's HP and MP today.

7k HP and 8K+ MP. He has 480+ Spirit as well resulting me to think that he added all his stat points to Spirit.

Which means to say, he gotten his 7k HP purely from gear, pet and perhaps DT stones?

Is that possible?

where did you check him .its really possible for FM to have that high HP and MP
at that lvl (btw what hes lvl atm )

Kumo
11-30-2010, 01:23 PM
I dunno, i guess its possible and you get bonuses from rhp which double mp and hp. Good gears (like insane gears) and lots of lucky chances help too.

DragonSis
02-07-2011, 11:29 AM
UPDATED :
pure sta : this is the pvp build . if i might add really good for pve as well at later lvl if you can finish DT you get stones Sta to attack which will add alot to your dmg .of curse you wont be like pure str . bt you will be compared to str\sta build bt with higher hp . i strongly suggest that .

this builld i high suggest

reason

there is stones STA TO ME
and stones STA TO ATTACK
and stones STR TO STA

first one if you going to be healler . when you hit higher lvl means higher stamina means higher ME .you will able to heal 4000-6000
2nd thing . is really when you out of party.you can dps well"not liek pure str" but that is very good .you wont die .or need health potion
and 3rd one for pk and pvp . in pk and pvp you need nothing more than HP


our class is hybrid .sta is hybird which dose match

Moramune
02-07-2011, 01:02 PM
Very well explained! Thumbs up to you Sis! ^^

DragonSis
03-02-2011, 08:40 AM
you welcome

i was wondring why no one asking ? was the guide so clear @_@?

Moramune
03-05-2011, 06:56 PM
you welcome

i was wondring why no one asking ? was the guide so clear @_@?

It is! Kudos to you! ^^ I did a little mixing on my MS Ive mixed spirit, strenght, and stamina. It has worked well for me.

Physiker
05-25-2011, 08:30 AM
So if I understand it correctly variable gear is more important then the actual build. The actual build only put the emphasis on one of the aspects of the MS.
It is about 100 points you put in by choice with 600 to 800 by gear?

Just some thoughts?
Is the charm XX to Atk. really worth it? As you get less than for other charms as Atk. is typically double the value of the other stats. Compared with ME Atk is exactly treated 2:1. So if you get the same amount with the charm you get effectively less (well you get Atk. more easily than ME by different means).

Just wondering if not Spa to Str would increase the damage more than XXX to Atk?

DragonSis
05-25-2011, 08:41 PM
So if I understand it correctly variable gear is more important then the actual build. The actual build only put the emphasis on one of the aspects of the MS.
It is about 100 points you put in by choice with 600 to 800 by gear?

Just some thoughts?
Is the charm XX to Atk. really worth it? As you get less than for other charms as Atk. is typically double the value of the other stats. Compared with ME Atk is exactly treated 2:1. So if you get the same amount with the charm you get effectively less (well you get Atk. more easily than ME by different means).

Just wondering if not Spa to Str would increase the damage more than XXX to Atk?
for your first point :
you can get 160 point
gear actuly that matter .but 160point isn't bad eathier .saying to go pure spr means you need to be pure spirit on your gears too as well /
2nd question :
charm XX to atk .proply is the only useless charm in this game
reason? each 5atk give you 1 dmg. its really useless in other hand.each 1 str add 1 atk. each 10 str add 1 dmg . plus you get more critec rate .

i said to put sta to atk .since sta to str weren't in the game when i made the thread ...
this thread kinda outdated .i need to put information on lv 3 customs and new charms. i will try since exams will start soon ,kinda hard getting on net

thanks for reminding me ;)

louay
07-12-2011, 06:21 AM
"pure sta : this is the pvp build . if i might add really good for pve as well at later lvl if you can finish DT you get stones Sta to attack which will add alot to your dmg .of curse you wont be like pure str . bt you will be compared to str\sta build bt with higher hp . i strongly suggest that . "
im adding sta for pvp as u said but im low lvl atm and when i duel player vs player ( pvp ) i always run out of spirit .. what to do

Wufei
07-12-2011, 09:01 AM
If you run out of mana while dueling as any non-rage based class, you aren't managing your mana correctly. MS healing takes much less overall mana at higher levels, but at low levels it can quickly eat your mana if you try to excessively heal in duels. Remember: You're supposed to kill your opponent as well as prevent yourself from dying. Best to put a heal in-between spells. Not sure if it's that easy anymore with the skill changes, though.

DragonSis
07-18-2011, 03:48 AM
"pure sta : this is the pvp build . if i might add really good for pve as well at later lvl if you can finish DT you get stones Sta to attack which will add alot to your dmg .of curse you wont be like pure str . bt you will be compared to str\sta build bt with higher hp . i strongly suggest that . "
im adding sta for pvp as u said but im low lvl atm and when i duel player vs player ( pvp ) i always run out of spirit .. what to do

oh
the main source of our mp"for all builds" is our talismans they give ridiculous amount of mp

i bet you using wrong talisman for your lvl
could you tell me your lvl and the talisman you using ?

and MS really shine in pvp after lv 54 when you get our fish summon
its one of our best skills in pvp . slows down the enemy and lower hes def make him weaker to your attacks and easily to kit



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i heared about the new patch 1.3.1 i hope they fixed our summon and our lv 603 ? so its now like chinese server ?if it is MS should win drs now easier than before ^_^

DragonSis
07-19-2011, 01:44 AM
ok the new update didn't fix our pets
BUT
new update gave us new skill . spirit base dmg
so the spirit build now actuly use that skill prety much alot .it will be main dps for that build
anyhow i am testing it dmg
my spirit built alt ."lv 7x ^_^" dose 307 spirit .126 me"low T_T"
lv 3 [Flame Snake] on dummy with no mr\def it delt 700 dmg .and critec 1200 and lucky hit 1400
which is very good for spirit build this is an weak alt .i will test with better alt taht has 400 ME and see diff
"sta build lv 69 <littlesis account"
:
here result :
dmg no critec 900 . critec 1500 .lucky 1501?"lol"
so
my stamina build stand victory .anyhow i don't have the mount that add 40% dmg output or lv 703 talisman on my sta\sprt alts so i can't really see the maximum dmg but i belive its very strong skill
beside could anyone test if it ignore the block skill of enemy? "somehow everyone in hare don't wann pvp me T_T "

louay
07-19-2011, 01:58 AM
im lvl 48 and using lvl 30 talisman
"as u said i keep it to get lvl 50 talisman draco ( tank talisman ) then i smelt lvl 30 talisman " :cool:

DragonSis
07-19-2011, 03:36 AM
im lvl 48 and using lvl 30 talisman
"as u said i keep it to get lvl 50 talisman draco ( tank talisman ) then i smelt lvl 30 talisman " :cool:

oh as i tho .you still lv 48 .wait until you get our fish skill .
but anyhow you do have lv 10 talisman smelted ? you can use it to reg your mp during pvp"which i never did since it take 3 sec to reg your hp and mp by 1k"
but for now use it in your pvp .or just wait until you get mrs cool fish :cool:

louay
07-19-2011, 06:07 AM
what is fish skill?

DragonSis
07-19-2011, 07:21 AM
what is fish skill?

this : http://zentia.wikia.com/wiki/Master_Summoner_Skills
Divine Retardation
its a lv 58 skill" i don't know why i tho its lv 54 >maby before patch was lv 54?<-- old player"very old player" here :D "