Triangles Alliance

[xtoanvangx]

Alliance Purposes
1) Protect everyone in this alliance
2) Have a fun community to chat and jokes
3) Get every strong as possible and be familiar with the game

Alliance Channel Rules
1) English Only
2) No cussing or provoke alliance members
3) No spamming
4) Avoid inappropriate topics
Partying Rules
1) Wild maps: everyone has the right to pt ANYONE they want
2) Pk-maps: no partying with enemies such as Allstars, Legendary, Deathgod members ( Exception: if they absolutely not involve in war then no problem)
Trades in Alliance
1) Priority for Alliance members for selling high stars crafts stuffs and pets.
Pk rules
1) Except for the enemies guilds listed, avoid pk- and provoke with other guilds
2) If you need help, yell for it and of course whether they come or not is depend on how you treat others members in alliance so it really effetcs you to treat others with respect.
3) Be active in arena and big war, follow leaders' advices
Rewards
1) we'll give daily 1 500k experience capsule to 1 member of alliance base on their contributions. It'll be decide by August, Elegance and Meeno.
2) Arena chests: Limit max to 2 times for same person to open , Let everyone has a chance. When it come to enemies , All high lvs do the work and let low lvs ( 80 and under) open. We'll give or sell to you with low price if you need it afterward.
Leaping Dragons-Red toad events
1) we'll provide you the time of the toad, make team with your friends and hunt. If there's no ks ,low lvs will be pt in
2) NO LD with enemies guilds whatsoever, try to pt alliance members first before yell for others
3) Items will be share afterward depend on your contribution , of course this's no forcing if you don't want to BUT remember treat others how you want to be treat
Punishments
1) Any Partying with enemies for hunting LD will get warn up to 3 times , after that it's up for leader to decide if you can stay or get kick. ( prob 90% will get kick so DON"T do it)
2) Disrepects other members and non-english speaking in alliance channel will get warn up to 5 times. Try to speaking English , we'll help you if you have problems with language
3) Conflicts with other members: Pm each other and solve it yourself. If it can't be solve. Leaders will take a look and help to solve it
For anyone who doesn't know my nick in game, I'm Addicter. These following rules had contribute by Elegance, Lei , Koj, sweethoney, August and myself:D
If you have any questions and ideas about alliance rule plz pm these people. We'll listen and well do our best at it.:)

[El3gance]

I second this, good job addicter.
Ele

[4nt0n]

Very good job and now clear, so no confusing happen.

[Mippithedork]

i over all like this post, however, i'm curious how well it'll be executed properly, i hope this clears up some of the crap going on, time will tell i suppose. As the leader of a neutral guild, i feel drug into other people's problems, when we don't want part of it, simply due to people forcing us into them (against our choosing). the rule i find most peculiar is the first one in PK rules, provocation seems to be a large issue for this alliance, however i understand it is "easy" to throw your weight around as a strong guild/alliance, it does not however give the god given right to tell other's what they can and can't do in this game, specially when it's normal gameplay.

My strong suggestion if you're wanting to keep these rules and abide by them is that if you have an enemy, and you want to kill that enemy, then attack that enemy and do what you need to, don't drag others into it, don't provoke others not involved (specially from other guilds not involved in "the war"). Just because ya'lls rule is to not party with YOUR enemies, doesn't mean everyone on the server has to follow by these rules, this will only inspire other guilds to gain a "hatred" for the alliance and those involved in it, thus making those people want to lvl up quicker and return the disrespect to those that gave it to them.

More and more enemies is what i doubt any alliance really wants, or any guild, or any player to be honest, but to avoid that it requires delegation, cool heads, and of course smart thinking and more respect for those that play around you that may not exactly be involved in the same drama that you may be in. If ya'll enjoy having hatred for each other, and if ya'll enjoy having constant conflict with people simply due to what guild they are in, then that is ya'lls choice, but do not expect everyone else on the game to feel the same way.

As i said before, i do like this post alot, but only time will show how well it's really fulfilled, i wish you all good luck and i hope that what's in this post is upheld and fulfilled to it's best ability. I, along with many other people on the server are staring at both sides of this conflict and we're absolutely hoping this isn't what we have to look forward to when we reach those lvls, that the highlight of our day is aiming to make other people angry at us.

I'm an avid pvper, and i love it, but for fun, not hatred. Hatred doesn't make a good gaming environment for anyone, and it hinders the growth of a game, server, guild, and people over all. Some food for thought.

When my guild finally decides to become "waring", it'll be with guilds that we discuss the war with, agree on a time, FRIENDLY gameplay, and absolutely no smack talking, no hurt feelings, no anger or hatred involved, and most likely a reward given to the winning guild of the war. We play games for entertainment, fun, enjoyment, and for some an escape from the pressures and drama of real life, logging into a game where you can't get none of these isn't a good environment, and i know many people on both sides of this war that aren't getting any of these things from the game anymore due to this thing, but they are semi-playing simply due to feeling responsible, or guilty if they left, or like the game is a chore. That's not good :/

So i understand ya'll have some hatred for each other, but maybe having all 6 leaders getting together for once, and having a reasonable conversation, and setting down some guide lines for the war, that all people on all sides are required to follow. If this isn't possible to do, then honestly, those people have already lost touch with what the game is about, and i wish the best for those people, but i honestly think this will help both sides out, allow some drama to die down and bring more fun into it for both sides, but who knows, i could be wrong, but i've got me some accountable experience in this area, and i feel strongly about this suggestion, it's ya'll choice of course.

sorry for the venting a bit, but i really like this post, and i wish ya'll the best of luck with it all, same with you're enemies, i wish them all the best of luck as well.




Mippithedork - Leodore - virus93 - Leader of Sinister - lvl 80 voodoo

[darkknightX]

this will soon turn into a flame thread LOL :p

[Mippithedork]

this will soon turn into a flame thread LOL :p

i hope not, this i believe is a constructive thread, and progress toward improvement, miscommunication is the number one reason for conflict, hopefully this will set down more direct guidelines for the alliance member in this alliance and hopefully remove further infection of there issue with each other into other guilds, and people who aren't directly involved.

So i really hope this post doesn't turn sour, and i hope this threat comes with positive results.

[Minnt]

:confused::confused::confused::confused:
Partying Rules
1) Wild maps: everyone has the right to pt ANYONE they want
2) Pk-maps: no partying with enemies such as Allstars, Legendary, Deathgod members ( Exception: if they absolutely not involve in war then no problem)

Really? u know most of the ppl on that guilds? even the new members of each of them??...if they do not know the list for each of this guilds and they get party together they are going to get pked??...maybe is just me..but i think this is not going to work good for u all... :/

[4nt0n]

:confused::confused::confused::confused:
Partying Rules
1) Wild maps: everyone has the right to pt ANYONE they want
2) Pk-maps: no partying with enemies such as Allstars, Legendary, Deathgod members ( Exception: if they absolutely not involve in war then no problem)

Really? u know most of the ppl on that guilds? even the new members of each of them??...if they do not know the list for each of this guilds and they get party together they are going to get pked??...maybe is just me..but i think this is not going to work good for u all... :/

Well this tread more to our aliance member not to outsider :) tahnks for the input tough

[Mippithedork]

Well this tread more to our aliance member not to outsider :) tahnks for the input tough

she does however bring up a valid point tho, it is difficult in the heat of the moment, when faced with opportunity to progress your character's growth with money, drops, w/e, to check everyone's info around you to see what guild they are in, dunno how to go around that or any suggestions on how to make that easier, but it is definitely a hurdle to jump and gonna be a speed bump in the course of this i believe, but i do wish the whole thing good luck, seems inorder to pull this off really, it's gonna need a bit of it.

[Prince]

very nice n creative way of thinking. Good luck with it. But ur decision maker cant even speak English. How can he determine wat is right and wrong? you know wat im talking about

[DickTracy]

Very nice work guys! And I really dont know what other people its complaining about when the rules are very clear and easy to understand, however all your points or view are appreciated, but as 4nt0n said before its to our Alliance and not outsiders... and lady minnt the answer its YES we know everyone of our members and so we know everyone of our enemies members, we know who war and who doesnt war so all pretty clear nice rules good job! keep on...

and no prince i dont know what you mean? may be cuz your english its not good enough to make you clear :D

[v_jimmy]

lol noob u didnt understand him coz ur english aint good enough:D

[DickTracy]

Lemme hear u scream in terror


lolz

Lemme see u run into twon in terror:cool:

[aznwildbabe]

Alliance Purposes
1) Protect everyone in this alliance
2) Have a fun community to chat and jokes
3) Get every strong as possible and be familiar with the game

Alliance Channel Rules
1) English Only
2) No cussing or provoke alliance members
3) No spamming
4) Avoid inappropriate topics
Partying Rules
1) Wild maps: everyone has the right to pt ANYONE they want
2) Pk-maps: no partying with enemies such as Allstars, Legendary, Deathgod members ( Exception: if they absolutely not involve in war then no problem)
Trades in Alliance
1) Priority for Alliance members for selling high stars crafts stuffs and pets.
Pk rules
1) Except for the enemies guilds listed, avoid pk- and provoke with other guilds
2) If you need help, yell for it and of course whether they come or not is depend on how you treat others members in alliance so it really effetcs you to treat others with respect.
3) Be active in arena and big war, follow leaders' advices
Rewards
1) we'll give daily 1 500k experience capsule to 1 member of alliance base on their contributions. It'll be decide by August, Elegance and Meeno.
2) Arena chests: Limit max to 2 times for same person to open , Let everyone has a chance. When it come to enemies , All high lvs do the work and let low lvs ( 80 and under) open. We'll give or sell to you with low price if you need it afterward.
Leaping Dragons-Red toad events
1) we'll provide you the time of the toad, make team with your friends and hunt. If there's no ks ,low lvs will be pt in
2) NO LD with enemies guilds whatsoever, try to pt alliance members first before yell for others
3) Items will be share afterward depend on your contribution , of course this's no forcing if you don't want to BUT remember treat others how you want to be treat
Punishments
1) Any Partying with enemies for hunting LD will get warn up to 3 times , after that it's up for leader to decide if you can stay or get kick. ( prob 90% will get kick so DON"T do it)
2) Disrepects other members and non-english speaking in alliance channel will get warn up to 5 times. Try to speaking English , we'll help you if you have problems with language
3) Conflicts with other members: Pm each other and solve it yourself. If it can't be solve. Leaders will take a look and help to solve it
For anyone who doesn't know my nick in game, I'm Addicter. These following rules had contribute by Elegance, Lei , Koj, sweethoney, August and myself:D
If you have any questions and ideas about alliance rule plz pm these people. We'll listen and well do our best at it.:)

Alliance Purpose
2)How to have fun community with chat and joke when lots of people can't speak English?
3)How to get everyone strong when August and Addicter use special tricks and let the others died losing exp.
Alliance Channel Rule
1)English only then how does August communitcate with u guys?
2)Avoid inappropriate topic? names it

Too lazy to go on bc im not low life

[Mippithedork]

i have to say i had high hopes for this thread penetrating into the alliance and seeing some positive changes in it, my hopes aren't going very far it seems tho. As far as i've seen, nothing's changed, and infact getting worse in some areas.

randomly pking whoever, for literally the reason of "cuz i like it", if i wanted a community like that, i would play WoW, i hope this community doesn't evolve (rather de-evolve) into something infectious like that.

I enjoy Dragon Oath and for a good percentage, it's community, it's still in it's infant stages but it's growing and trends are beginning to settle into the core of what it is to "play dragon oath". Some are good, some are bad. Good trends inspire growth of the game and it's community, Bad trends steer away from growth and inhibit the community from developing into a mature solid form.

Out of the many guilds i've seen and groups of people, the 6 guilds involved in this "war", seem to be the one's developing negative trends and reinforcing these ideas and tendencies into it's members and trying to drag others down with them.

It's not always what you do that matters, it's how you do it, it's not always what you say that matters, but rather how you say it. There is, of course, always room for improvement in all things. If this is seriously a goal of ya'lls to bring a bit of order and positive light on this area, i recommend making sure that the group of people involved in it all plan on holding the same values.

I hear almost every hour of everyday from guilds abroad about how members in this alliance or the other one, are doing things that, umm, could be considered to be pointless, redundant, a hindrance and just stupid in some cases. And with most things, it's not even exactly the actions that happen that make it so sour to the senses, it's the attitudes that they carry with them.

I know of people who've literally been killed 30+ times in the past week by a group of people in this alliance, and when asked about why, in attempts to resolve what differences there could be, we discover there isn't a reason, it's literally just cuz they "like it".

Now, I know this alliance is strong, has many high lvls, and yada yada, but are high lvls really showing their "strength and power" by pking lower lvls, who 1. won't even fight back , 2. never actually did anything to them, 3. typically just log off trying to figure out why they continue to play a game where they high lvls in it seem to find joy in stopping other people from trying to enjoy their game and progress their own characters, or 4. gain a hatred for the group of people that keep doing this to them, and will eventually get to a point where they can begin to do the same back to the people who did it to them.

NONE of those things are good, for either players, the groups of people they play with, or the game over all. If ya'll enjoy the game as much as ya'll seem to enjoy it, invest the time/money into, and continue to play and progress your characters, you'd think a bit of thought about tomorrow's results from today's decisions would be put into it as well.

WE ALL play this game for our own reasons, whether shortage of things to do, mmo addiction, friends, escapes from the real world and it's drama, stress release, enjoyment of the game, or w/e. Not many people i know like to get into a game, spend some time playing it, and have people who think they are high and mighty and just randomly choose to try to ruin other people's enjoyment.

Just some food for thought, as this seems to be a reoccurring event daily, and every time i hear of it from someone or see it myself, i'm just reminded of this thread in the back of my head and how i was optimistic about it's results on this alliance.

I still wish you the best of luck on this, as luck may be the only thing to save this thing at this point, that or a bunch of work, but the 2nd option doesn't seem likely honestly.

enjoy your evenings, good luck and happy hunting

[Armand]

I know of people who've literally been killed 30+ times in the past week by a group of people in this alliance, and when asked about why, in attempts to resolve what differences there could be, we discover there isn't a reason, it's literally just cuz they "like it".

My suggestion to you would be to isolate those instances. Take screen shots, bring it up to the guild leaders, and if all else fails, report it to customer service. If these individuals were in-fact being targeted 30+ times as you said, that would qualify as harassment if there is no other valid reason.

There are always two sides to every story. Unless proof of claims that negatively reflect either side are brought to light, it can only be regarded as hearsay. I'm not saying you're lying in this instance, but you are bringing a heavy accusation down on a plethora of individuals who I'm sure would argue against your claims.

[Mippithedork]

My suggestion to you would be to isolate those instances. Take screen shots, bring it up to the guild leaders, and if all else fails, report it to customer service. If these individuals were in-fact being targeted 30+ times as you said, that would qualify as harassment if there is no other valid reason.

There are always two sides to every story. Unless proof of claims that negatively reflect either side are brought to light, it can only be regarded as hearsay. I'm not saying you're lying in this instance, but you are bringing a heavy accusation down on a plethora of individuals who I'm sure would argue against your claims.


nah, i'm sorry if i'm coming off in a way that i'm saying that the whole guild, or even a large majority of the guilds are doing this, i'm not in any way meaning this. It seems to be small groups of individuals within some of the guilds in the alliance(s), i didn't bring up names cuz i don't like to sling dirt of course, and i'm not looking to start trouble.

A bit of notification sometimes goes a far way, and i guess that's what i'm hoping for the most out of it. Maybe raise an eyebrow when they see someone's name showing up constantly in guild chat showing someone killing someone over and over again in different areas, and possibly ask why? and see what they say, cuz talking to the individuals directly isn't going anywhere at all it seems.

I'm the type of person to always hope for reform before punishment. Maybe people within the guilds can find out more information about the situation from the other side then i'm having luck getting from the people, so that i know how to better handle the situation.

So once again, i'm sorry if i miscommunicated my intentions with my statements, they weren't accusations, they are notifications, that things may be going on that calling into question next time and finding out why, could help both sides of the people involved. I seek for resolution, not restitution.

[El3gance]

Eh hi ppl. ..thx for all the suggestions , this and that but we open this thread not as a suggestion box so yeah, if you not in the alliance, please take this thread as sth not bothering u, and go somewhere else reading other ppl's story . This is a thread for OUR PEOPLE to look up as a reference..it has NOTHING to do with YOU. Thank you and hope i wont have to reply again. Peace

[Painrinnegan]

dont be so rude El3. If u dont want to tk advice dont tk it.

[kojak]

dont be so rude El3. If u dont want to tk advice dont tk it.

Just take the advice stop adding comments on the thread. I don't think its rude or anything. Anyway, don't you think its true if you have nothing to do with it, why bother to post?

[19darkhart97]

I always like reading Viruses' posts. Quite critical and full of advice, he's a strong voodoo naturally being my idol (man that sounds really wierd having a role model in a MMO). He has a point were it's community, being nice and such. We heartless members are always making friendly random chats about friendly random stuff. Ok i like to indulge in a bit of bloodshed but that's natural. Killing basically all your enemies :confused: that's one way to get crushed. But this is my opinion others might have others but that's life.

greengo145

Zion OathKeeper

My shadow casts darker...

[Mippithedork]

:: looks at url ::

:: looks at forum title ::

:: looks at thread section ::

hmm, odd o.o i thought this was dragon oath forums lol, maybe i'm wrong :rolleyes:

If post for public eyes to see, expect public mouths to comment, it's common sense. ;)

[Minnt]

Eh hi ppl. ..thx for all the suggestions , this and that but we open this thread not as a suggestion box so yeah, if you not in the alliance, please take this thread as sth not bothering u, and go somewhere else reading other ppl's story . This is a thread for OUR PEOPLE to look up as a reference..it has NOTHING to do with YOU. Thank you and hope i wont have to reply again. Peace
lol u might be a lvl 90 at game but that doesn't mean u have more right than others this community is not yours is public forum :/, i think u got it wrong...;)

[Mippithedork]

I always like reading Viruses' posts. Quite critical and full of advice, he's a strong voodoo naturally being my idol (man that sounds really wierd having a role model in a MMO). He has a point were it's community, being nice and such. We heartless members are always making friendly random chats about friendly random stuff. Ok i like to indulge in a bit of bloodshed but that's natural. Killing basically all your enemies :confused: that's one way to get crushed. But this is my opinion others might have others but that's life.

greengo145

Zion OathKeeper

My shadow casts darker...

:: blushes :: lol

[El3gance]

lol u might be a lvl 90 at game but that doesn't mean u have more right than others this community is not yours is public forum :/, i think u got it wrong...;)

All I asked is for those ppl who has nothing better to do than to jump in the thread with tittle 'TRIANGLES ALLIANCE' and start provoking this person and that person to read this: You are welcome to read, yeah and absolutely fine to response , its just that for those of u who have a slight thoughts about provoking this person or that person , or the ppl who is outside of this alliance n wish for us to do this or do that accordingly to their wishes, take a second to ask urself..do u belong to this alliance? If you do, we appreciate your contribution to make OUR rules better. But If you dont , then wat the heck r u doing here, may I ask? And read my reply again , I DID NOTsay you have to stop posting.. I have asked you to PLEASE leave us as we are, yea? I think in the rudeness department,,, im far better than some ppl who just jumped in and insulted some of our ppl about their language limitation,jumped in a house which not belong to them and told the people inside what to do, help me out here, wat is rude?. You sure can always scroll up and check. Peace

[Mippithedork]

it's called constructive criticism, i didn't once state a name, a person, or even a specific group/guild, or state anything actually forcefully negative. Merely suggestions, if you can't handle that, dunno what to tell you then lol. As for the one or two comments that could be conceived as "rude", dunno again, not my business.

But considering majority of the posts on this thread about it that aren't involved in the alliance are me, so i can most likely safely assume some of you're comments are directed towards me, which is fine too, as i said, if you can't handle it, it's kinda you're problem not mine.

[El3gance]

it's called constructive criticism, i didn't once state a name, a person, or even a specific group/guild, or state anything actually forcefully negative. Merely suggestions, if you can't handle that, dunno what to tell you then lol. As for the one or two comments that could be conceived as "rude", dunno again, not my business.

But considering majority of the posts on this thread about it that aren't involved in the alliance are me, so i can most likely safely assume some of you're comments are directed towards me, which is fine too, as i said, if you can't handle it, it's kinda you're problem not mine.

Sorry i dont give a slight [!@#$] about u or wat u said, i dont even read wat u wrote in those long replies, now that u said it , i read a little..kindda appreciate ur time n devotion to write such long replies but really I think u wasted ur time here..im talking to all the ppl in general, not directing u or any1 else. I did say THOSE PEOPLE u're not that famous, and certainly will not take a great attention n time of my life so wake up dont dream, and cheers up.. I have nothing against u except reminding u this is none of ur business and i hope u realise it isnt. Wont post again...getting ridiculous. Have fun n enjoy watever u doing

[FeralGirl]

Create a website for your alliance, it's easy to do. Problem solved.

[zvodoz]

i have to say i had high hopes for this thread penetrating into the alliance and seeing some positive changes in it, my hopes aren't going very far it seems tho. As far as i've seen, nothing's changed, and infact getting worse in some areas.

randomly pking whoever, for literally the reason of "cuz i like it", if i wanted a community like that, i would play WoW, i hope this community doesn't evolve (rather de-evolve) into something infectious like that.

I enjoy Dragon Oath and for a good percentage, it's community, it's still in it's infant stages but it's growing and trends are beginning to settle into the core of what it is to "play dragon oath". Some are good, some are bad. Good trends inspire growth of the game and it's community, Bad trends steer away from growth and inhibit the community from developing into a mature solid form.

Out of the many guilds i've seen and groups of people, the 6 guilds involved in this "war", seem to be the one's developing negative trends and reinforcing these ideas and tendencies into it's members and trying to drag others down with them.

It's not always what you do that matters, it's how you do it, it's not always what you say that matters, but rather how you say it. There is, of course, always room for improvement in all things. If this is seriously a goal of ya'lls to bring a bit of order and positive light on this area, i recommend making sure that the group of people involved in it all plan on holding the same values.

I hear almost every hour of everyday from guilds abroad about how members in this alliance or the other one, are doing things that, umm, could be considered to be pointless, redundant, a hindrance and just stupid in some cases. And with most things, it's not even exactly the actions that happen that make it so sour to the senses, it's the attitudes that they carry with them.

I know of people who've literally been killed 30+ times in the past week by a group of people in this alliance, and when asked about why, in attempts to resolve what differences there could be, we discover there isn't a reason, it's literally just cuz they "like it".

Now, I know this alliance is strong, has many high lvls, and yada yada, but are high lvls really showing their "strength and power" by pking lower lvls, who 1. won't even fight back , 2. never actually did anything to them, 3. typically just log off trying to figure out why they continue to play a game where they high lvls in it seem to find joy in stopping other people from trying to enjoy their game and progress their own characters, or 4. gain a hatred for the group of people that keep doing this to them, and will eventually get to a point where they can begin to do the same back to the people who did it to them.

NONE of those things are good, for either players, the groups of people they play with, or the game over all. If ya'll enjoy the game as much as ya'll seem to enjoy it, invest the time/money into, and continue to play and progress your characters, you'd think a bit of thought about tomorrow's results from today's decisions would be put into it as well.

WE ALL play this game for our own reasons, whether shortage of things to do, mmo addiction, friends, escapes from the real world and it's drama, stress release, enjoyment of the game, or w/e. Not many people i know like to get into a game, spend some time playing it, and have people who think they are high and mighty and just randomly choose to try to ruin other people's enjoyment.

Just some food for thought, as this seems to be a reoccurring event daily, and every time i hear of it from someone or see it myself, i'm just reminded of this thread in the back of my head and how i was optimistic about it's results on this alliance.

I still wish you the best of luck on this, as luck may be the only thing to save this thing at this point, that or a bunch of work, but the 2nd option doesn't seem likely honestly.

enjoy your evenings, good luck and happy hunting

I can understand that you got some emotion after you have been killed couple times, but dont try to spread out too far. On this day, I have seen you were killed 2 times, and couple times for your members as well. If I missed some kills before this day, but i still think not enough like you said 30+ times. Here we're watching our people when they killed others too. However, have you thought about why they killed you? Before they started to kill your members, I heard some of them talked in Alliance channel that Sinister is still working for AS. This can be happened when things are not clear. Once you have joined AS to fight against us, we consider you as our enemy also. When you withdraw from the war, we accept. However, some people who have warned you about getting involved before wont trust you, they think you will come back when you have built up your force. they are still watching you. When they see you walking around in TI with enemies. Only thought in their minds is that you are still with enemies. You can talk to our leaders to stop this problem right away, but if you dont talk, these people will think they are right. then they continue to do things on you.

btw, may people here play with much emotion and fight because of hating. It's hard to expect them to have a fair and nice fight. I like your thought for playing nice and fighting fair. I hope some days leaders of both sides can sit down and talk to make a better community for all.

Last thing, if you get some problem with us in game later, I think you can go to Flame thread under discussion section to talk or make a new topic in there for people to discuss. Here in this topic, we are glad to accept any suggestion or advice for our rules, so we can make our alliance a better community.

[Mippithedork]

yea, one loop whole in ya'lls ideas tho about stuff it seems :/

we party with people from ya'lls alliance too, and guess who kills us then lol, yep you guessed it, the other alliance lol. As we told them, we told ya'll, we're not in either of ya'lls alliance, we party with both, events, bosses, etc, considering majority of high lvls are in either one of these 6 guilds in the alliances, we kinda don't have much option but to party with the 6 guilds, i've gone to LD's, yan tomb, HR's, TR's, among many other things with members from all the guilds involved in this war thing.

How do we choose which party to join? whoever is available to do it. We're having the same issues we're having with triangle, as we are with Redemption alliance, the things i've said to one side, i've said to both sides. Hell, i've got people from both alliances in ventrilo, or on msn/yahoo.

So the "concern" is that we're still on the allstars side, and we're just laying low, getting stronger, and are going to strike one day? i can say this, if that happens, it won't be because we chose a side, it'll be because people (don't care which side) kept messing with us too much, and when the day comes, revenge will be dealt out.

Constantly killing us, doesn't make sense with this concern however. Where as, we're being killed on a possibility that we are doing something, if we keep being killed it'll be a truth, not a possibility. I however, along with the leadership of the guild, do not want that as a future for this guild, we want a thriving GAMING community in our guild, not a growing drama pageant.

Oh and about the joining allstars to fight ya'll, nah, you got that one twisted lol, we joined with allstars for protection against lvl 90+'s hunting a guild of lvl 65's and below, not to send a bunch of lvl 65's out to their deaths trying to kill a lvl 90+

The things we get accused of, and the way these things are handled share one thing in common. NONE of them make any sense at all, a little bit of common sense placed into the mix and it seems to reveal this. (this is not an insult, just a fact, when people are caught up in their own things, they tend to forget some of the most obvious of things).

about the flame thread thing, the day i flame, i'll gladly move it to that thread, until then, i'm content in the normal areas, but thank you tho :)

[Minnt]

Create a website for your alliance, it's easy to do. Problem solved.
Again u think ur better than us...lol..im sorry, you are not...i think this is the best thing u could do, as feral said, get your own space if u dont like criticism..cause that is bound to happen when u post thing in a general forum...so please dont be full of yourself like u always do, trust me your not gaining any points..i think ur loosing them...

[Minnt]

Sorry i dont give a slight [!@#$] about u or wat u said, i dont even read wat u wrote in those long replies, now that u said it , i read a little..kindda appreciate ur time n devotion to write such long replies but really I think u wasted ur time here..im talking to all the ppl in general, not directing u or any1 else. I did say THOSE PEOPLE u're not that famous, and certainly will not take a great attention n time of my life so wake up dont dream, and cheers up.. I have nothing against u except reminding u this is none of ur business and i hope u realise it isnt. Wont post again...getting ridiculous. Have fun n enjoy watever u doing

LOL really.-. u think u are famous? (cause u seem to insinuate that, that he is not and u are.. ) and if u dont even read what are u doing replaying?....dang! doesnt make any sense at all... what?? :confused:

And one more thing the only one here being rude is u...so please stop!!!:eek:

[Mippithedork]

Again u think ur better than us...lol..im sorry, you are not...i think this is the best thing u could do, as feral said, get your own space if u dont like criticism..cause that is bound to happen when u post thing in a general forum...so please dont be full of yourself like u always do, trust me your not gaining any points..i think ur loosing them...

I agree with feralgirl as well about the website thing

if ya'll need help establishing a website that you're alliance can use, and the secrets to making it active, i can assist with this if you'd like, i'd love to see more and more guilds with guild websites, and alliances with alliance websites for this game, it's one of the things that i can say helps our guild out alot, and our's is pretty active (could be more active, but i've yet to see a guild site on this game that's even close to being active, much less as active as ours).

You can check ours out at www.wearesinister.com

If you'd like temporary access to the website so you can see some of the inner workings of it, let me know, if not, that's cool too, just trying to help the community ^^

[Minnt]

I can understand that you got some emotion after you have been killed couple times, but dont try to spread out too far. On this day, I have seen you were killed 2 times, and couple times for your members as well. If I missed some kills before this day, but i still think not enough like you said 30+ times. Here we're watching our people when they killed others too. However, have you thought about why they killed you? Before they started to kill your members, I heard some of them talked in Alliance channel that Sinister is still working for AS. This can be happened when things are not clear. Once you have joined AS to fight against us, we consider you as our enemy also. When you withdraw from the war, we accept. However, some people who have warned you about getting involved before wont trust you, they think you will come back when you have built up your force. they are still watching you. When they see you walking around in TI with enemies. Only thought in their minds is that you are still with enemies. You can talk to our leaders to stop this problem right away, but if you dont talk, these people will think they are right. then they continue to do things on you.

btw, may people here play with much emotion and fight because of hating. It's hard to expect them to have a fair and nice fight. I like your thought for playing nice and fighting fair. I hope some days leaders of both sides can sit down and talk to make a better community for all.

Last thing, if you get some problem with us in game later, I think you can go to Flame thread under discussion section to talk or make a new topic in there for people to discuss. Here in this topic, we are glad to accept any suggestion or advice for our rules, so we can make our alliance a better community.

LOL just too much...i really dunno what u are all thinking..are u to mob? who works for who?
And no look, my char was the one that got killed over 30 times, that i harassment and i did several complains about it, cause i did stop to think and i did ask why they are killing me, and what did i do to deserve that...and when i did ask they said "cause i like it"..GEEZ...as u can see a lot of bright ppl playing this game...thats not a good reason to go killing ppl...when i dont even fight back, im not a pvper...and i dont even like that feature of the game.
The funny thing is i have never talked or partied whit this 2 persons that are killing me...so again u should ask before assume...

[greetingfromohio]

LOL just too much...i really dunno what u are all thinking..are u to mob? who works for who?
And no look, my char was the one that got killed over 30 times, that i harassment and i did several complains about it, cause i did stop to think and i did ask why they are killing me, and what did i do to deserve that...and when i did ask they said "cause i like it"..GEEZ...as u can see a lot of bright ppl playing this game...thats not a good reason to go killing ppl...when i dont even fight back, im not a pvper...and i dont even like that feature of the game.
The funny thing is i have never talked or partied whit this 2 persons that are killing me...so again u should ask before assume...

lol reading all ur posts from this thread i think u got killed becos of ur [big] mouth...They already said it not ur [darn] business , so why do u have to be nosy in everything they do.. I know u in game too n i know u're not a person that evry1 would like to make friend with so ...[amusingly hypocritical advisement to act maturely]..u get wat u deserved n stop nosing into other ppl's business

[Mippithedork]

greetingfromohio (Laguna), for each 1 person who feels like that about Minnt and i can show 50 that feels the opposite, those that feel that way, don't come close to knowing her, those that run their mouth about her, well, lol, i can name a particular few, all i can say about those people is that jealousy is a cold hearted ***** lol, anyways, this thread is not about anyone particular, and is on it's coarse to not be a flame thread, so let's keep it that way? thanks lol

fact of the matter is that this seems to be a valiant effort for lines of communication, i applaud that at it's least, as for the rules and such, simply suggestions and information being freely provided without charge :o

^_^ my offer still stands with the help thing, despite this umm blatant flame above me lol, poor job on that by the way Laguna, very poor job indeed


oh yea, and if there is anyone here being "nosey" it's me, none of her posts come off as nosey, frankly none of mine do either, but if you HAD to look at this thread and say who's nosey, it'd be me, and i love how you targeted the person whom you think you can simply insult away at instead of someone like myself. How feeble of an attempt that is and horribly aimed as well =x

[zvodoz]

we party with people from ya'lls alliance too, and guess who kills us then lol, yep you guessed it, the other alliance lol. As we told them, we told ya'll, we're not in either of ya'lls alliance, we party with both, events, bosses, etc, considering majority of high lvls are in either one of these 6 guilds in the alliances, we kinda don't have much option but to party with the 6 guilds, i've gone to LD's, yan tomb, HR's, TR's, among many other things with members from all the guilds involved in this war thing.

The things we get accused of, and the way these things are handled share one thing in common. NONE of them make any sense at all, a little bit of common sense placed into the mix and it seems to reveal this. (this is not an insult, just a fact, when people are caught up in their own things, they tend to forget some of the most obvious of things).



I think you have forgot about either Triangles and Redemption alliances. Yeah, at your side, you are freedom to team with anyone in this server, but please think about us. While Triangles and Redemption are fighting. If you team up with AS people, here we will think that you get back with AS (because you used to be with them). If you team with us, AS may think you betray them and follow stronger side. You have the right to go with anyone, but if you choose to go with either Redemption or Triangle people for LD, you have to know the risk for being interrupting, especially if you or your members are lurers. Hope you understand this. People often dont do things for nonsense.

We are now a bit different from AS. Before, AS and Destiny often killed all people who were going out for LD except their friends and alliance. They claimed that they were fighting at TI for the treasure (LDs), they couldn't accept that while they were fighting for the treasure, a third side came out claiming neutral, but getting the treasure, so what was their point for fighting when there's no treasure? this reason was acceptable, but not nice. So we now share LDs with all people except our enemies.



Oh and about the joining allstars to fight ya'll, nah, you got that one twisted lol, we joined with allstars for protection against lvl 90+'s hunting a guild of lvl 65's and below, not to send a bunch of lvl 65's out to their deaths trying to kill a lvl 90+

about the flame thread thing, the day i flame, i'll gladly move it to that thread, until then, i'm content in the normal areas, but thank you tho :)

Nothing happens without any reason. back to these days, when DoanDu joined your guild, I thought he wanted to leave the war. However, he didn't. while he was in Sinister, he still went out to help AS to fight against us. While you were his leader, you didn't stop him, but accept for your members to help him fighting against us as well. We didn't want to get more enemies, and we had warned your guild about that, but unfortunately. Well, if you wanted to give your guild a try to face us. we had no choice. This was happened by your choice, we didn't force you to get into the war. I think you can't say you joined AS for protection.

Once again, please get off this topic and move to Discussion section if you want any further discussion. Have you looked at the last message from Addicter for this topic? It's "If you have any questions and ideas about alliance rule plz pm these people. We'll listen and well do our best at it." We just want to get suggestion and advice about our rules in this topic.

[19darkhart97]

Sorry i dont give a slight [!@#$] about u or wat u said, i dont even read wat u wrote in those long replies, now that u said it , i read a little..kindda appreciate ur time n devotion to write such long replies but really I think u wasted ur time here..im talking to all the ppl in general, not directing u or any1 else. I did say THOSE PEOPLE u're not that famous, and certainly will not take a great attention n time of my life so wake up dont dream, and cheers up.. I have nothing against u except reminding u this is none of ur business and i hope u realise it isnt. Wont post again...getting ridiculous. Have fun n enjoy watever u doing
These forums were designed for everyone not just you. We can't do any harm only help also what the forums were designed for.

greengo145
Zion Oathkeeper

My shadow casts darker...

[Minnt]

lol reading all ur posts from this thread i think u got killed becos of ur [big] mouth...They already said it not ur [darn] business , so why do u have to be nosy in everything they do.. I know u in game too n i know u're not a person that evry1 would like to make friend with so ...[amusingly hypocritical advisement to act maturely]...u get wat u deserved n stop nosing into other ppl's business

LOL, not even worth commenting more than this : LOL please!!!!!!! repeat this comment in the mirror for yourself!!!

[Mippithedork]

I think you have forgot about either Triangles and Redemption alliances. Yeah, at your side, you are freedom to team with anyone in this server, but please think about us. While Triangles and Redemption are fighting. If you team up with AS people, here we will think that you get back with AS (because you used to be with them). If you team with us, AS may think you betray them and follow stronger side. You have the right to go with anyone, but if you choose to go with either Redemption or Triangle people for LD, you have to know the risk for being interrupting, especially if you or your members are lurers. Hope you understand this. People often dont do things for nonsense.

We are now a bit different from AS. Before, AS and Destiny often killed all people who were going out for LD except their friends and alliance. They claimed that they were fighting at TI for the treasure (LDs), they couldn't accept that while they were fighting for the treasure, a third side came out claiming neutral, but getting the treasure, so what was their point for fighting when there's no treasure? this reason was acceptable, but not nice. So we now share LDs with all people except our enemies.



Nothing happens without any reason. back to these days, when DoanDu joined your guild, I thought he wanted to leave the war. However, he didn't. while he was in Sinister, he still went out to help AS to fight against us. While you were his leader, you didn't stop him, but accept for your members to help him fighting against us as well. We didn't want to get more enemies, and we had warned your guild about that, but unfortunately. Well, if you wanted to give your guild a try to face us. we had no choice. This was happened by your choice, we didn't force you to get into the war. I think you can't say you joined AS for protection.

Once again, please get off this topic and move to Discussion section if you want any further discussion. Have you looked at the last message from Addicter for this topic? It's "If you have any questions and ideas about alliance rule plz pm these people. We'll listen and well do our best at it." We just want to get suggestion and advice about our rules in this topic.

duely noted about the addicter thing, but as i've tried with several of the leadership roles in the alliance, i simply get told "i dunno what to do about that", so it doesn't go very far sadly it seems. As for the war thing, we did join the alliance for protection, and also for the doandu thing, when he joined the guild, it was about a week later before anyone had told us anything, to be quite honest, we didn't even know about the war at that time, and didn't think it was anything big or important, considering we were all low level in the guild at the time, highest lvl was 65 and that was me, and we had only been playing for about 4-5 weeks when he joined, so it's not like we are very knowledgeable about what's going on in the server, we were simply trying to lvl up and enjoy the game, and we saw a lvl 90 wanting to join the guild o.o so we accepted him lol, natural reactions. Then when we had 1 person, butterfly, "warn" us about him, i took it into consideration but nothing was happening at the time to take it serious.

Then butterfly started to kill us (doandu at this point was not killing people THAT WE KNOW OF), shortly after butterfly started killing our people is when we noticed doandu killing warlord members, and it went from there. In doandu's time at sinister, he spent a good amount of time doing guild quests and such to get the pharmacy building up and such, when we finally realized the true scope of the war and who all was actually involved in it, we decided that we didn't want a part of it.

Due to doandu's contribution to the guild in guild quests and the building construction, we didn't want to simply put him flat on his kaboos, i'm not that type of person. So we made a deal, that when the construction of the building was finished, and he got his higher lvl pharmacy skill, he would leave the guild, and it finished, and he left. We also had altercations with our own alliance due to now we simply wanted the alliance for easy partying access, and high lvl players on demand for question answering about higher lvl things we were just coming into doing. Stuff hit the fan when we started acting neutral (by partying with the other alliance as well) and well we were removed from the alliance, which is fine by us, cuz it only shows our neutrality more so, so less confusion happens.

information is a powerful tool, and instead of leaving people to assume and imagine what they want to assume and imagine, i'd rather people hear the truth and hopefully they will know more and react differently since there is more information about it.

We're still not exactly sure why/how this war got started, and why it involves so many people simply "hating" each other, but we don't want a part of it. We will continue to party Redemption alliance members, and Triangle alliance members, just cuz we show up to something, or we do something with a side of this war, doesn't mean that we're part of their beef. If we're gonna have beef with someone, we want it to be worth having, not just cuz it's someone else's mess.

[greetingfromohio]

These forums were designed for everyone not just you. We can't do any harm only help also what the forums were designed for.

greengo145
Zion Oathkeeper

My shadow casts darker...

Didnt you hear 4nt0n,El3gance and Kojak said this is none of your business? Read the tittle please, where did it say: hey ppl come in we want your opinions, especially if u are not involve? It's loud and clear : "Triangles Alliance", unless u' dont know how to read but you all replied so i assumed that you know how to write anc certainly know how to read.If you have lots of time get sth better to do, if u just cant help but stick ur nose into ppl's business and for god sake , make ur own thread.

[greetingfromohio]

LOL, not even worth commenting more than this : LOL please!!!!!!! repeat this comment in the mirror for yourself!!!

Proves my point...u just have a [really big] mouth, [repeated advisement to act maturely; greetingfromohio, in the future, please try to lead by example] get a life n stop interferring with other ppl's business

[greetingfromohio]

greetingfromohio (Laguna), for each 1 person who feels like that about Minnt and i can show 50 that feels the opposite, those that feel that way, don't come close to knowing her, those that run their mouth about her, well, lol, i can name a particular few, all i can say about those people is that jealousy is a cold hearted ***** lol, anyways, this thread is not about anyone particular, and is on it's coarse to not be a flame thread, so let's keep it that way? thanks lol

fact of the matter is that this seems to be a valiant effort for lines of communication, i applaud that at it's least, as for the rules and such, simply suggestions and information being freely provided without charge :o

^_^ my offer still stands with the help thing, despite this umm blatant flame above me lol, poor job on that by the way Laguna, very poor job indeed


oh yea, and if there is anyone here being "nosey" it's me, none of her posts come off as nosey, frankly none of mine do either, but if you HAD to look at this thread and say who's nosey, it'd be me, and i love how you targeted the person whom you think you can simply insult away at instead of someone like myself. How feeble of an attempt that is and horribly aimed as well =x

The same goes to you, r u trying to be a smart *** or sth? Who needs your advice anyway. If u have lots of time, go [obscene suggestion replaced by: take up knitting]...thats way better than wat u're doing and at least all these peeps here dont have to read your [words which I disagree with], tyvm

[19darkhart97]

Like I said in my post that these forums are designed for every one not just this guild. Also you calling rude names and offensive language I'm sure you'll be having a nasty call from Lucy song shorty.

greengo145
Zion OathKeeper

My shadow casts darker...

[SubZero]

im not surprise the way how the Triangles Alliance talk to people and treat people.

im not gonna reply so don't bother reply please :D

[Mippithedork]

lol, simply lol, wow, prime example of how efforts to communicate properly, effectively, maturely, or even at all, just simply fall short and are left abandoned on the cutting room floor >.< shame :/

[Painrinnegan]

Didnt you hear 4nt0n,El3gance and Kojak said this is none of your business? Read the tittle please, where did it say: hey ppl come in we want your opinions, especially if u are not involve? It's loud and clear : "Triangles Alliance", unless u' dont know how to read but you all replied so i assumed that you know how to write anc certainly know how to read.If you have lots of time get sth better to do, if u just cant help but stick ur nose into ppl's business and for god sake , make ur own thread.
listen if its none of our business, go and post this to ur own website where only triangle members can log in. if u post IT here, people will say whatever they like and it IS NONE OF UR BUSINESS TO STOP THEM FROM WHAT THEY WANTED TO SAY - only LUCY CAN DO THAT. :cool:

[greetingfromohio]

listen if its none of our business, go and post this to ur own website where only triangle members can log in. if u post IT here, people will say whatever they like and it IS NONE OF UR BUSINESS TO STOP THEM FROM WHAT THEY WANTED TO SAY - only LUCY CAN DO THAT. :cool:

I realised , cant stop these ignorants...sigh..ill just go play with my puppy ..at least he knows to stop when i tell him not to stick his mouth into other puppies's bowls.

[greetingfromohio]

Dont like SubZero but have to agree with him : If u got pked in Zion, dont cry ...dont like it go to Nirvana...crying is wrong...crying in ppl's thread about another topic is well extremely wrong:rolleyes:

[19darkhart97]

And exactly how long have you been playing for? This shouldn't be a flame thread but this greetingfromohio guy isn't helping.

PS that made utterly so sense at all.

PPS you're forum thing said you joined a few days ago so I'm going to assume you know nothing about the forums and that this thread is for everyone.

PPPS you're not helping you're guild here now that you're using poor language skills no-one will join now. Now I know why no-one likes this guild.

greengo145
Zion Oathkeeper

My shadow casts darker...

[19darkhart97]

lol, simply lol, wow, prime example of how efforts to communicate properly, effectively, maturely, or even at all, just simply fall short and are left abandoned on the cutting room floor >.< shame :/
I have to say I agree poor language skills won't help you're guild.

[kojak]

I have to say I agree poor language skills won't help you're guild.

it's "your guild" not "you're guild". you're guild = you are guild. It means you are a guild or the guild lmao. sorry bout this.

[19darkhart97]

No lol that's my iPhone coming up with any word that rhymes with that, it's really anoying lol.

[Mippithedork]

No lol that's my iPhone coming up with any word that rhymes with that, it's really anoying lol.

My HTC does the same >.<

i feel your pain lol

[Painrinnegan]

oops greet i know ur puppy does not get anything to eat so, u eat frm others. So bad little puppy:(

[4nt0n]

Have not see the post for a while, thanks for all the comment.

But like i said this post just for our rule, we try make our alliance better, with having clear rule.

So please don't make it more than that.

thanks for all.

[darkknightX]

Well i think u shud change ur PK rule... recently BF in ur ALLIANCE has provoked a neutral peaceful guild to war and wants our whole ally to war ur ally :p and u say u are right and dont pk innocent LOL What u say here doesnt imply in game and u ppl kill who ever u want :eek:

[SubZero]

Well i think u shud change ur PK rule... recently BF in ur ALLIANCE has provoked a neutral peaceful guild to war and wants our whole ally to war ur ally :p and u say u are right and dont pk innocent LOL What u say here doesnt imply in game and u ppl kill who ever u want :eek:

BF is an A**hole he kills anyone he want, when ever he want. WL even encourage him to do it

These rules are just Bulls**t to make them look good

:rolleyes:

[jraptor]

How do I join the Triangle alliance?

[v_jimmy]

How do I join the Triangle alliance?

Its simple, kill whoeva u see in pk maps.... go on lieng on forums.... nd shut ur eyes to woteva wrong a 9x shao named ButterFly does in game.... thn nd only thn u cn be a part of the Triangles Alliance:D

well goodluck with that btw


peace out:cool:

[v_jimmy]

ooops...did i say that out loud:( my apologies.... was supposed to be a secret:p

[darkknightX]

BF is an A**hole he kills anyone he want, when ever he want. WL even encourage him to do it

These rules are just Bulls**t to make them look good

:rolleyes:

Yap now i see that BF does watever he wants and rob innocent traders and start war n none of em in ALLIANCE can do anything abt it :rolleyes: its true that these rules are jus for show off and make em look good

[4nt0n]

:confused::confused:

:D:D

BF in Nemesis so Nemesis guild responsible for his member (can't blame WL), about pk neutral guild you cant say neutral if when we war with other the neutral heal one of the side, usually there a reason.

rarely pk random people, accept trader in TI "doing trade passing TI, like ask people to rob".

And also sometimes old "vendetta" take place, u cant ask people suddenly stop u whenever you say you become neutral, if u involve in war before.

We try to respect that, but most people cant keep his/her promise. Lot people when they lose or in no mood to war they say neutral, then when they in mood or stronger they say they war again, how u expect us to keep promise if other side didn't keep promise?

I know bf have high tension but he never randomly pk for no reason, he has reason.

And last if neutral guild want keep neutral try not come to pk map and not accept person that involve in war to the neutral guild, when u go to pk map and accept people that involve to war that mean u decide to join the war.

[darkknightX]

lol Lei u dont even know the reason why BF atked a neutral guild and killed innocent traders :p il tell u the reason... BF said that if Destiny/DeadHeart is in Majapahit guild he wud rob their traders? now how dumb is that? if u hav prob with some1 go kill him/her and we said we will not save or help or protect Destiny but BF went on robbing other traders jus so that we will kick her. And when i asked BF not to do so and if u want go kill and rob Destiny but BF said if he wants he will rob my traders also :p and i said they are my ally so im asking u not to and what was his reply he said UR ALLY VS OUR ALLY we war. LOL

u say dont provoke neutral guild but looks like ur ally guild member wants to and SO WHEN U SAY BF IS IN NEMESIS SO DOES THAT MEAN NEMESIS IS NOT IN UR ALLIANCE? im not blaming WL or any1 here i thot this post was abt ur ALLAINCE AND RULES N CRAP.. say wat u do not jus bluff on forum and bully others and when some1 in ur ally does somethin u say he is in that guild so we cant help it but he is in ur ALLY. :D

[v_jimmy]

:confused::confused:

:D:D

BF in Nemesis so Nemesis guild responsible for his member (can't blame WL), about pk neutral guild you cant say neutral if when we war with other the neutral heal one of the side, usually there a reason.

rarely pk random people, accept trader in TI "doing trade passing TI, like ask people to rob".

And also sometimes old "vendetta" take place, u cant ask people suddenly stop u whenever you say you become neutral, if u involve in war before.

We try to respect that, but most people cant keep his/her promise. Lot people when they lose or in no mood to war they say neutral, then when they in mood or stronger they say they war again, how u expect us to keep promise if other side didn't keep promise?

I know bf have high tension but he never randomly pk for no reason, he has reason.

And last if neutral guild want keep neutral try not come to pk map and not accept person that involve in war to the neutral guild, when u go to pk map and accept people that involve to war that mean u decide to join the war.


wow u say Nemesis is responsible for thr members bt thn dude wot were those long posts in the starting of this thread about Triangles Alliance crap supposed to mean? ur not making a point here...neither stating a fact, ur juz trying to hide the fact that u guyz cant control ur members nd i must say ur not doing a great or a good job.


u say traders who pass ti invite others to rob thm? wow.... didnt xpect a 9x in game to be so shallow in his thoughts. If a guild cant gt a betr trade route, if they only manage to establish a trade route in which willingly or unwillingly they hv to pass through ti..... does that make thm guilty of nethng? no it doesnt. And if u say its a free invitation to rob thm thn my frnd ur wrong. If u take pleasure in looting sme low lvl player whoz passing thru ti then thats sick, bt i guess thats wot Triangles Alliance is.

U say people cant suddenly go neutral. Well thn do u xpect thm to stay guildless for a month nd let BF kill thm 10 times a day without fighting back? will that mke u realize they r neutral?


U say BF doesnt randomly pk... i say bs.... BF got a boiling brain over his head nd dat too seldom works. He would PK neone he feels like wheneva he feels like, nd u guyz cnt do a thing abt it.


And lastly, u said members from neutral guild shudnt team up with people from warring guild. Wow. Go ahead nd read the first post in this thread. You r juz contradicting wot one of ur own men said. And u neva say a thing wen people from neutral guild team up with ur alliance members. I hv seen people from Gangsters nd Maja team up with WL evryday for quests nd bosses. So u mean its right for ne guild to party u(nd if em not wrong WL, illu nd Nemesis r warring guilds) bt if they party ne other guild involved in wars u gonna kill thm nd not let thm enjoy thr game.


Lei, my frnd, i dont think ur post in here does not go in accordance with ur alliance motives nd other craps Addicter posted in this thread. Your alliance needs to realize they cnt rule the server nd they will not. You cant tell people whom to pt with nd whom not to. Evry1 is free to pt with ne1 they want in game nd u all r no1 to stop thm. And i cn say juz killing those who dont agree with u aint gonna help ur cause.


You know, the 1400g meat lobe inside ur skulls, thats called brain, u guyz need to strt using it more:cool:

[4nt0n]

well u are really good at turn around fact,

first : i talk about pk zone not about regular zone. Alliance is free to party with anyone they want in non pk map, remember non pk map. when people pt with warring guild in pk map they should know the consequence, and about did they want pt or not is their own problem.

Second : TI originally is pk zone, i just make simple warning don't pass TI its danger when u do trade cause when u pass ti and get robed no consequence for the robber "not get crime".

about bf, i have friend in some guild that bf war basically his request is simple please don't let "xxx" in your guild, do something about that if not then he will hunt them. <--- not totally agree but every people have their own way to settle problem.

third : when people join war is not that easy to lose the hook, so many people already say neutral and we say in alliance this "xxx" is neutral and soon the "xxx" is start war again, so trust is issue and not easy to build, when u get betray again and again its not easy to trust people. so when guild accept this kind ppl they must know what will they get.

Fourth : so far i know we give warning to people before like when sinister want join war, i speak to mint don't do it better u guys neutral but what they do they join alliance and war, and then later afterward say neutral imagine how many people u kill when war? did u think this people will just say ok they say they neutral now let them be ..... heheheh not that easy my friend....


and yes alliance is there to protect us in alliance for neutral guild that have problem and want settle it nicely wisp my ign: Lei and try talk with cold head, we can try resolve the problem. if u guys dont talk how we know u guys have problem?

and insult don't bring u anywhere just show how childish u are.

I try resolve problem not make one bigger and u AS jimmy we meet in battlefield, dont talk to much and just have fun. To many of my friend quit already cause people just talk and not have fun, I admire "Prince" he war then just have fun and not talk to much.

And last sorry if my grammer suck ;) heheh

[zvodoz]

lol Lei u dont even know the reason why BF atked a neutral guild and killed innocent traders :p il tell u the reason... BF said that if Destiny/DeadHeart is in Majapahit guild he wud rob their traders? now how dumb is that? if u hav prob with some1 go kill him/her and we said we will not save or help or protect Destiny but BF went on robbing other traders jus so that we will kick her. And when i asked BF not to do so and if u want go kill and rob Destiny but BF said if he wants he will rob my traders also :p and i said they are my ally so im asking u not to and what was his reply he said UR ALLY VS OUR ALLY we war. LOL

u say dont provoke neutral guild but looks like ur ally guild member wants to and SO WHEN U SAY BF IS IN NEMESIS SO DOES THAT MEAN NEMESIS IS NOT IN UR ALLIANCE? im not blaming WL or any1 here i thot this post was abt ur ALLAINCE AND RULES N CRAP.. say wat u do not jus bluff on forum and bully others and when some1 in ur ally does somethin u say he is in that guild so we cant help it but he is in ur ALLY. :D

hi darkknight, we play here not to control people, but we ask people for playing nice as much as they can. Everyone has his/her own way to play here. For BF's acts, yeah, even he's not in my guild but still in alliance. So we have talked to him about that. We ask him to leave those people who have left our enemies' guilds alone, but he still consicers his enemies as enemies does not matter where they go. So we ask him to just deal with either Destiny/Deadheart or laospastar, and leave other people alone. Here he said your guild or majah guild has helped his enemies while he's dealing with them. There, you said he has killed innocent traders. i see both of you have the reason, so please contact his leader, or talk to Addicter, he represents for our alliance, to work out this problem.

PS: if you think we are still friends, please do not help or support our enemies in anyway. Even though they are weaker than us now, their members still go out to rob our low level traders and pk our afk fishing members. Here we have people to rob their traders back too, but we dont think it's good to pk afk fishing people.

[darkknightX]

u skip my whole point Lei :p ur ALLIANCE is bullying neutral peaceful guild and wants us to do wat u want.. Why shud we listen? we said u can kill "xxx" person wenever or wherevr u see but robbing low Lv and killing n recking ppl in that guild to make em do wat u want.. thats really weak jus cuz u hav alot of power doesnt mean u can go around and make ppl do wat u wish i spoke to kain and the prob is solved so hope BF listens and wont jus go and rob random ppl jus to make his will and ego satisfied :p

[darkknightX]

hi darkknight, we play here not to control people, but we ask people for playing nice as much as they can. Everyone has his/her own way to play here. For BF's acts, yeah, even he's not in my guild but still in alliance. So we have talked to him about that. We ask him to leave those people who have left our enemies' guilds alone, but he still consicers his enemies as enemies does not matter where they go. So we ask him to just deal with either Destiny/Deadheart or laospastar, and leave other people alone. Here he said your guild or majah guild has helped his enemies while he's dealing with them. There, you said he has killed innocent traders. i see both of you have the reason, so please contact his leader, or talk to Addicter, he represents for our alliance, to work out this problem.

PS: if you think we are still friends, please do not help or support our enemies in anyway. Even though they are weaker than us now, their members still go out to rob our low level traders and pk our afk fishing members. Here we have people to rob their traders back too, but we dont think it's good to pk afk fishing people.

Well yes i hav alot of good frnds on both sides but the prob here was that BF wanted us to kick destiny out of guild he started bullying us we said U CAN KILL destiny and we NEVER HELPED OR PROTECTED her infact BF said that by not kicking destiny we are protecting her. I mean y shud we listen to BF and do wat he says? we never helped any sides in any way so y do we get dragged into it? anyways its solved and i hope BF wont rob traders any more and if he does then we will fite bak thats all

[zvodoz]

I agree with you Lei. I have seen some people who have left Redemption alliance to join neutral guilds, but when we fight with Redeption alliance, those people still go out to help them ( I have seen laospastar and MyNameIs did). Sooner or later these people will cause the problem between us and some neutral guilds. I hope those leaders of neutral guilds can see it and stop before they bring their whole guilds into the war.

[zvodoz]

Well yes i hav alot of good frnds on both sides but the prob here was that BF wanted us to kick destiny out of guild he started bullying us we said U CAN KILL destiny and we NEVER HELPED OR PROTECTED her infact BF said that by not kicking destiny we are protecting her. I mean y shud we listen to BF and do wat he says? we never helped any sides in any way so y do we get dragged into it? anyways its solved and i hope BF wont rob traders any more and if he does then we will fite bak thats all

I kinda understand this dk because I have been in this situation too. last 2 weeks, i was going to join my friend's guild to research some recipes for my life skills, but i kept thinking about that should I join them or not. Here we had enemies, if I joined my friend's guild, my enemies might come after me. My friend's guild would not be peace anymore. Thought about enemies, they might think that my friend wanted to protect me once i got in guild, but they didn't know that I came for life skills because I didn't tell my enemies that I came for life skills :D. We can't stop people to think their ways, but rather we should learn what they think, then we do something to prevent any problem that can happen.

[4nt0n]

Well if u have spy in our alliance u know most of us not agree with what bf do "nemesis leader not agree too", but we also understand why bf do it.

try pm Mr.Kain or Addicter and try talk with them or Pm : Elegance if u still want solve the problem.

And like u say dark i don't even know this is happen till today, so how can i try help resolve it?

Sorry if my English bad.

can try pm me to :) if want talk, cant speak for all alliance yet but illuminaty not back up what bf do and hope can settle it peacefully.

[v_jimmy]

well u are really good at turn around fact,

first : i talk about pk zone not about regular zone. Alliance is free to party with anyone they want in non pk map, remember non pk map. when people pt with warring guild in pk map they should know the consequence, and about did they want pt or not is their own problem.

thr r people i kno who pt people frm both sides in pk maps...so does that make them enemy of both sides?? no it doesnt. As long as a neutral people dont support any of the guilds in killing a member of the warring guilds.... they r technically neutral.... nd dats how it shud be. You say people r leaving coz they dont enjoy the game... well how can they enjoy the game wen sme1 threatens to kill thm if they team up with thr friends.... Em sure u also hv frnds who r neutral bt often pt u in pk maps for doing bosses..... so do u mean we shud kill thm the next time we see thm juz bczo they teamed up with u??:confused:


Second : TI originally is pk zone, i just make simple warning don't pass TI its danger when u do trade cause when u pass ti and get robed no consequence for the robber "not get crime".

if em not mistaken bf evn robbed traders in non-pk maps like mt. sanctity


third : when people join war is not that easy to lose the hook, so many people already say neutral and we say in alliance this "xxx" is neutral and soon the "xxx" is start war again, so trust is issue and not easy to build, when u get betray again and again its not easy to trust people. so when guild accept this kind ppl they must know what will they get.
I agree with you Lei. I have seen some people who have left Redemption alliance to join neutral guilds, but when we fight with Redeption alliance, those people still go out to help them ( I have seen laospastar and MyNameIs did). Sooner or later these people will cause the problem between us and some neutral guilds. I hope those leaders of neutral guilds can see it and stop before they bring their whole guilds into the war.

you guyz need to notice that thr is some problem in ur approach. You judge people on prejudices.Lao tried to go neutral... he stopped warring bt thn he was killed by Addicter Butterfly nd Kain numerous times in the following days.... on couple of occassions he didnt evn fight back. Now if u keep killing people who r trying to go out of war thn its obvious u r provoking thm in a way to war u again. And thats wot happened. Now u cnt blame him if he supports ur enemies in war again can u? Because u urselved sowed back the seed of hatred.



I try resolve problem not make one bigger and u AS jimmy we meet in battlefield, dont talk to much and just have fun. To many of my friend quit already cause people just talk and not have fun, I admire "Prince" he war then just have fun and not talk to much.

We cant war on forums.... u r meant to talk nd share ur ideas nd beliefs over here...juz bcoz sme1 doesnt agree to wot u say or contradicts u doesnt mean he cnt speak out his mind. And we sure will meet in battlefield:D
As far as the idea of having fun is concerned... like i said how cn people hv fun wen they r threatened to be killed if they team up with thr frnds.



I see u r doing sme good work... trying to bring peace... nd i appreciate that bt u need to know ur actions(rather i shud say ur Alliance's) often contradict ur words...



peace out:cool:

[v_jimmy]

:eek:did i juz type all dat:D LOL

[4nt0n]

well in war a lot of think happen, i use "xxx" cause try not make bigger problem and try solve it.

u make Lao as example, ok then use him as example,

u know how many people get robed by Lao when he in war? a lot.

u know how many people gt wrecked while doing LD in TI while he in war? a lot.

so what u expect from this a lot of people when Lao say he will neutral and not war anymore? think if u in their shoes, what will u do just say ok u neutral now u can do whatever u want..... hehehe that a joke, people most likely hold grunt against something like this.

And if u say we act like we contradict our self, you should know Triangles is big alliance and with big alliance we get a lot people and with lot people we get a lot different view about think so not easy to manage alliance.

We also try not to make big war with neutral, so when all maja guys jump to BF even tough alliance there no one jump to maja people, at least illuminaty there and not jump and pk maja even tough they get green because maja use AOE in guild pk mode "from what i heard" yesterday "dont know what happen all the time, not God", so we try solve the problem but don’t know if our alliance will do the same think next time maja jump to BF cause BF is our allied and we have obligation to protect our alliance “BF do a lot for our alliance he always ready to help alliance when alliance need him, so we owe a lot to him”.

And like i say make problem is easy solve it hard, so for neutral guild that have problem with us, we can talk but also must understand solve problem is harder that make it.

And last once people not keep his/her word to our alliance, we will be hard to trust this kind of people "to tired help solved problem, then back again cause people not keep his/her word."

And Jimmy i don't know what u try to do with post about our alliance in the forum lol u our enemies so lets just meet in the battlefield.

[DickTracy]

I wont doubt of Majapahit and Pendekars neutral stand...

But I will doubt when Destiny and DeadHeart join a neutral guild as Majapahit and say they wont go to wars anymore but its all lies still party our enemies on War issues... Breaking their Neutral Stand and trying to bring a Neutral Guild as Majapahit which we dont have any kind of issue, but its like if those players who just joint Majapahit are making or tying by any mean to drag Maja or anyother neutral guild they join into a War no body wants... On that point BF its right and have right to go pk Destiny and Deadheart because they just using the undercover of being on a Neutral Guild as Maja and declearing themselves as Neutral but the fact is they still join and help our enemies on war issues ... so where is the neutral stand of those players? it is none they just trying to drag Maja into a war, but im sure they wont succes, theyll get kick out if they dont really fallow their "Netral Stance" by joining a Neutral guild, However Maja guys are really cool I always pt with them and they do the right thing when moment comes out

Another "Neutral guild", darkknights guild " G4angster... you say you are neutral but now you have 3 allstars/deathgod members which they've decleared and even promise not war anymore... same as the ones joint Maja all lies they still getting involved into war issues...

And for end darkknight and jimmy Our PK rule dont need to be changed, it is exacty as it is... We are not pking Neutral guild as Maja or as yours what you say it is still neutral.. in the particualry case of Maja and BF, Im sure BF its just pking deadheart and Desitny and not the origin Maja members which as i said before we dont have any kind of issue, but those 2 guys came from enemy guild and promise not to war but they still warring and want their new guild to protect them??? no way if they really neutral and joint and neutral guild then hold your word and not try to get that guild involved to war.

Same case for your guild G4anster see the part when we are following our PK rule of not killing neutral guilds when we hanvent pk any of your olders members but we cannot accomplish that rule when your new members coming from enemy guild go involved into war issues and still as i said, we are not pking your real true neutral members but we cannot just let that as it when they still goin into war issues just using the undercover of being on a neutral guild. If you really want to be Neutral then "Demand" from your new members to really stand Neutral.

As my point of view this is really clear they are just using neutral guilds so as an excuse for saying that we are killing neutral guild what is not in the fact. The guild may be neutral what we for sure respect but their new players are clearly not. :cool:

[darkknightX]

I wont doubt of Majapahit and Pendekars neutral stand...

But I will doubt when Destiny and DeadHeart join a neutral guild as Majapahit and say they wont go to wars anymore but its all lies still party our enemies on War issues... Breaking their Neutral Stand and trying to bring a Neutral Guild as Majapahit which we dont have any kind of issue, but its like if those players who just joint Majapahit are making or tying by any mean to drag Maja or anyother neutral guild they join into a War no body wants... On that point BF its right and have right to go pk Destiny and Deadheart because they just using the undercover of being on a Neutral Guild as Maja and declearing themselves as Neutral but the fact is they still join and help our enemies on war issues ... so where is the neutral stand of those players? it is none they just trying to drag Maja into a war, but im sure they wont succes, theyll get kick out if they dont really fallow their "Netral Stance" by joining a Neutral guild, However Maja guys are really cool I always pt with them and they do the right thing when moment comes out

Another "Neutral guild", darkknights guild " G4angster... you say you are neutral but now you have 3 allstars/deathgod members which they've decleared and even promise not war anymore... same as the ones joint Maja all lies they still getting involved into war issues...

And for end darkknight and jimmy Our PK rule dont need to be changed, it is exacty as it is... We are not pking Neutral guild as Maja or as yours what you say it is still neutral.. in the particualry case of Maja and BF, Im sure BF its just pking deadheart and Desitny and not the origin Maja members which as i said before we dont have any kind of issue, but those 2 guys came from enemy guild and promise not to war but they still warring and want their new guild to protect them??? no way if they really neutral and joint and neutral guild then hold your word and not try to get that guild involved to war.

Same case for your guild G4anster see the part when we are following our PK rule of not killing neutral guilds when we hanvent pk any of your olders members but we cannot accomplish that rule when your new members coming from enemy guild go involved into war issues and still as i said, we are not pking your real true neutral members but we cannot just let that as it when they still goin into war issues just using the undercover of being on a neutral guild. If you really want to be Neutral then "Demand" from your new members to really stand Neutral.

As my point of view this is really clear they are just using neutral guilds so as an excuse for saying that we are killing neutral guild what is not in the fact. The guild may be neutral what we for sure respect but their new players are clearly not. :cool:

plz stop dragging it more its done and u dont even know what exctly BF did and im not gonna post any more abt it if BF robs Maja we fite bak n defend and recently BF started killing AFK fishers(All that Lv 4 gems and tokens spending jus to go and kill AFK ppl and low Lv player LOL hahahahahaha =)) ) i know NONE of u can control wat BF does so we jus fite bak only with BF and no more argument abt it so TALK when u hav all facts :D and u dont even know that BF has killed our true members and traders jus so that we will kick destiny out now thats call BULLYING like i said get the facts right and talk no offence but wat BF is doin is WRONG so end of argument

[Armand]

How did I know this thread would've turned into another flame thread?

Look the bottom line is, if you're a guild that allows any member from the war to join, you have to know what the liability is for doing so. That member's actions is now on your plate. If that member's intentions is to sow a seed of hatred within your guild for their enemies, who is to stop them from doing so?

I say that theoretically of course. People don't change overnight. As we've witnessed time and time again over the past year, people sometimes join neutral guilds to regroup and recover without being weakened further in the constant conflict.

Just deal with it or don't. The conflict will still continue on both sides without recourse.

[Mippithedork]

i can say from first hand experience that each guild in this alliance, and the other alliance has some dirty members in it. One's the provoke situations where a person must react or die, then the person in the alliance gets killed, and then that alliance thinks the Neutral person is "warring".

Scenario 1: Low lvl char, with crime comes into west lake with crime, person in neutral guild happens to be there, and attacks the low lvl crime player but the crime player escapes, and clears their crime, stands in the spawn and begins to attack the neutral guild member, the neutral guild member attacks the player back not knowing he cleared crime, kills him, and bam gets crime himself. IRONICALLY, a higher lvl member of one of the alliance (triangle in this particular scenario), happens to be standing there, and attacks the neutral guild member now that has crime, the neutral guild member defends himself against the attack and kills the player in the alliance, this player HAPPENS to be on a trade, and the guild message comes up with " How appalling 'Neutral guild' leader killed and robbed 'Alliance guild' member yada yada yada". Then IRONICALLY this person doesn't say or explain what happened to his/her guild in guild chat, but instead keeps quiet or lies about the scenario, and leads his/her guild to believe that the Neutral guild member is "warring". Then it spirals downward from there, even when the neutral guild member tries to explain and delegate the issue peacefully, and tries to explain how he was baited into crime, and how the trader attacked him first and he was defending himself, they don't listen, and just say "blah blah blah, i'm hunting you and your guild". Then they begin to kill the Neutral guild members repeatedly over and over, and provoke them over and over, and then wonder why that IF they get a chance to help kill these alliance members for killing them over and over, why they take the chance. This is an actual scenario that happened not too long ago, and it was handled with pure ignorance, by some of the people i've been told to "talk to if there are issues".

Scenario 2: Neutral guild member has friends in both guilds, Neutral guild member happens to be in a party,on a boss, or grinding or something with an "enemy" of someone in the other alliance, the alliance member attacks the party (not just the "enemy"), the neutral member defends him/herself from the attack and aids in the killing of the assailant, bam, guild message pops up of so and so killed so and so, then they whine in guild chat or alliance chat about how the neutral member is warring on the side of their enemy, or blames their attack on the fact that they were partying with an enemy. I suppose they forget the meaning of Neutral, it means neither side, it doesn't mean they won't do things with EITHER side, it means that they don't prefer one side over the other. But yet they get attacked for being neutral, then react when attacked, and when they attack back, they are "warring" all of a sudden, and the members of the alliance provoke further attack, which brings even more reacting (or should i say AKA more "warring"). Again when brought to the attention of the people we keep being told to "talk to", we get "blah blah blah, you are warring". A conversation of some portion of intelligence requires listening as well, not just "blah blah blah" comments. This is another actual scenario, that happens actually all the time. Thing is, this isn't just on triangles side, these neutral guilds are being treated like this by both sides of this war, which even more so shows the neutrality of these guilds, but blind judgment inhibits the exposure of this, but this is OF COURSE at fault of the neutral guilds, NEVER the alliances......

anyways, i could keep going with tons and tons of scenarios of how stupid things are with all this crap.

Funniest line in this thread is "have fun", i have to say i agree with jimmy on this one, how can you have much fun, if you have friends on both sides of this war, and you're being told by both sides, that you NEED to choose, or stay away from all of them. NEITHER of those outcomes are "neutral", neither of them. So the words that come out of ya'lls mouth is "be neutral if you're neutral", and our actions are neutral actions, but ya'lls actions are not saying "be neutral if you're neutral" they are saying "join us or fight us".

I mean, if you're stance is that, at least boldly say it's that, don't' hide behind false advertisement of this snot on forums and the politics of it all. If you want to war anyone that doesn't want to side with your side of the war, say it, be it, and act like it. If not, then say it, be it and act like it.

It's seriously a simple concept and not hard to grasp, i don't get why this is being made out to be so complicated. You people aren't stupid, you're all fully capable of acting a bit more mature then a kid stomping his feet on the ground crying and wanting his bottle, maybe it's time to show this side of yourselves a bit more, show a bit more dignity, a bit more honor, a bit more maturity, and quite possibly a bit more respect for other people.

I know some of you, if not most of you, care about yourself, your game play, yours yours and yours, that's all fine and dandy. Maybe you don't care about the longevity of the game, and the environment the higher lvls are creating for other people wanting to reach higher lvl. I know people who won't even reach a higher lvl, they hit a certain lvl and they start again on a noob char and lvl it up to a cerain lvl, and keep doing that, simply because the environment that's there for higher lvls is disgusting and doesn't look entertaining at all for majority of players. Full of hatred, drama, and stupidity.

Right now, it seems asif being higher lvl means, that you have to choose one of the two sides of this stupid stupid war, that literally spawned from more stupidity to begin with, also that as a higher lvl, you pretty much don't even fight most people you're lvl, you just hunt lower lvls to flex you're "strength", on and let's not forget my favorite part about being high level, threatening people's gameplay and enjoyment in the game over small things that have no true value, simply cuz "you can".

High level sounds fun! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

seriously, get your act together guys... seriously...

[v_jimmy]

Well i was out thr on ti a few mins back nd i juz saw smthng very disappointing nd disturbing. I didnt witness the whole scenario bt wot i witnessed was a 4x player frm sme neutral guild asking out a few Illuminaty players present over thr that "What is Illuminaty's problem with me?" nd he got a strange reply from TieuDzao " No trade on ti". Now i guess we all can figure out wot cud hv happened thr.


And as far as my posting here on this thread is concerned, well, em free to post on any thread in a public forum. I can understand u dont like my posts bcoz i hv been challenging evrythng u say in ur posts, maybe bcoz i dont trust the integrity of ur words. And y shud I? wen i see ur members doing xactly opposite of wot u say out here.

[Rosa]

just ignnor what's that jimmy said , he is an idiot and rerereretarded

[Mippithedork]

just ignnor what's that jimmy said , he is an idiot and rerereretarded

thank you for representing yourself, and showing us all you're superior intellect, bravo, simply bravo -.-

[4nt0n]

give up, no use if both side don't want solve the problem let it be what it be....

give up raise my hand :D

[Mippithedork]

give up, no use if both side don't want solve the problem let it be what it be....

give up raise my hand :D

you're not very observant either, even if it's obvious and right in you're face it seems.

There are people informing you of what's going on, suggesting possible fixes for it, and so forth, and you're saying "if both side don't want to solve the problem", i see people attempting, and then i see people ignoring.

Don't be on the ignoring side, and act asif the attempts to fix it aren't there in front of your eyes.

[zvodoz]

Well i was out thr on ti a few mins back nd i juz saw smthng very disappointing nd disturbing. I didnt witness the whole scenario bt wot i witnessed was a 4x player frm sme neutral guild asking out a few Illuminaty players present over thr that "What is Illuminaty's problem with me?" nd he got a strange reply from TieuDzao " No trade on ti". Now i guess we all can figure out wot cud hv happened thr.


And as far as my posting here on this thread is concerned, well, em free to post on any thread in a public forum. I can understand u dont like my posts bcoz i hv been challenging evrythng u say in ur posts, maybe bcoz i dont trust the integrity of ur words. And y shud I? wen i see ur members doing xactly opposite of wot u say out here.

lol Jimmy, I dont reply your post because your saying is nonsense here. why? most people here know we started the war with your guild and its alliance before because we wanted both us and neutral guilds to be free on our ways. Before your guild not only killed our guildies, but also they killed other neutral people even neutral people made their own team within their guild and alliance. And now you join them and want to talk for something against your guild? I dont see your saying is reasonable. At least I can tell you that we let neutral people free on their ways, until there is a mix in them. The problem has started from the day they have accepted our enemies in their guild. What would you do when you see your enemies in front of you?

Honestly, I dont see those people in neutral guilds have thought for others or dont understand much about the situation when they accept new members. Out all of those so far, I have just seen Froggy was the one that understood the case and thought for others. When he recruited more members... he stated clear that no accept for members from WL, Destiny and their alliances who were in the war at that time. People looked at him and might say he's so mean or something... but really reasonable.

PS: please focus on the situation, dont try to drag more small problems that could happen in daily lives and make this situation become worst.

[Mippithedork]

PS: please focus on the situation, dont try to drag more small problems that could happen in daily lives and make this situation become worst.

it may be considered "small" problems to you and maybe other high lvls, but there are many other people on this server that these "small" problems, are much larger then they are to you. a lvl 40 having his source of income that he's been looking forward to getting since he first heard about trading, trading has then become his GAME for a while, and to have that cut off from him, cuz someone "said so", well, sadly, it's no longer a small problem for that guy, it's a HUGE problem.

Like i said, respect for other people, it goes a long long way, i promise.

(oh and this isn't completely directed to you vodo, i just thought about that part when you said small problems, about how we may think some things are no big deal, maybe due to it no longer being important to us, or due to level, or personal concerns, but to other players, it may be a big deal, and what they enjoy in the game, and it's being taken from them for literally NO reason)

[v_jimmy]

lol Jimmy, I dont reply your post because your saying is nonsense here. why? most people here know we started the war with your guild and its alliance before because we wanted both us and neutral guilds to be free on our ways. Before your guild not only killed our guildies, but also they killed other neutral people even neutral people made their own team within their guild and alliance. And now you join them and want to talk for something against your guild? I dont see your saying is reasonable. At least I can tell you that we let neutral people free on their ways, until there is a mix in them. The problem has started from the day they have accepted our enemies in their guild. What would you do when you see your enemies in front of you?

Honestly, I dont see those people in neutral guilds have thought for others or dont understand much about the situation when they accept new members. Out all of those so far, I have just seen Froggy was the one that understood the case and thought for others. When he recruited more members... he stated clear that no accept for members from WL, Destiny and their alliances who were in the war at that time. People looked at him and might say he's so mean or something... but really reasonable.

PS: please focus on the situation, dont try to drag more small problems that could happen in daily lives and make this situation become worst.



Obviously my posts will look non-sense to u bcoz ur sense of judgement hv been clouded. You say u let neutral people go out on their way, bt let me tell me how i got dragged in this war thing. I was neutral bt I was pked several times by members frm ur alliance( ur old alliance WL, HL nd Illu) juz bcoz i ksed thr yt bosses. And to my best knowledge my team never used to involve ne1 from ne of the warring guilds. So dont gv me that bulls***t that u guyz r so idealistic nd all dat crap. And dude look around, em not the only one pointing a finger at u guyz. And i juz mentioned a small incident in my last post. I dont see a 4x player being able to harm ur alliance with so many 9x in any way. So y was he attacked. Before u say smthng to me, go look at the deeds of ur members.



Food for thought: Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.




just ignnor what's that jimmy said , he is an idiot and rerereretarded

lol i xpected nothing less from the leader of an army of fools. Goodjob u lived up to my xpectations.:D

[zvodoz]

well, i understand that trade is one of resource for any level atm. And yeah, that's a big problem for him because it may be his only resource. Of course I accept that killing a trader is not a nice way. I reply to Jimmy because I have seen he has tried hard to bring some small problems between us in order to make the problem we are debating bigger. Thanks for reminding me about this case. yeah, now I look at this case I would say yes, if it is true ( from his behavior here, i doubt it, sorry) . TD is not nice enough.

[zvodoz]

Obviously my posts will look non-sense to u bcoz ur sense of judgement hv been clouded. You say u let neutral people go out on their way, bt let me tell me how i got dragged in this war thing. I was neutral bt I was pked several times by members frm ur alliance( ur old alliance WL, HL nd Illu) juz bcoz i ksed thr yt bosses. And to my best knowledge my team never used to involve ne1 from ne of the warring guilds. So dont gv me that bulls***t that u guyz r so idealistic nd all dat crap. And dude look around, em not the only one pointing a finger at u guyz. And i juz mentioned a small incident in my last post. I dont see a 4x player being able to harm ur alliance with so many 9x in any way. So y was he attacked. Before u say smthng to me, go look at the deeds of ur members.



Food for thought: Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.






lol i xpected nothing less from the leader of an army of fools. Goodjob u lived up to my xpectations.:D

Again Jimmy, please look back, who are you and where are you from? You're from AS... you are supposed to speak for your guild rather than against your guild. if you want to speak this for other people... stop your guild first.

For those neutral guilds, what would you think if they haven't accepted our enemies in their guild? They have the right to accept any players in their guild, but if they accept anyone who is the enemy of other people, they should know the outcome may happen.

[zvodoz]

I know some of you, if not most of you, care about yourself, your game play, yours yours and yours, that's all fine and dandy. Maybe you don't care about the longevity of the game, and the environment the higher lvls are creating for other people wanting to reach higher lvl. I know people who won't even reach a higher lvl, they hit a certain lvl and they start again on a noob char and lvl it up to a cerain lvl, and keep doing that, simply because the environment that's there for higher lvls is disgusting and doesn't look entertaining at all for majority of players. Full of hatred, drama, and stupidity.

I have stopped discussing with you because I got your point for unkowning what happened between us and our enemies. you said you have just started this game for couple weeks, so I could understand that you might be dragged into the war without your awareness.

Look at all of your posts, you want a lot, but what you have done in order to make what you want? You can't expect to have everything you want without your action. I still see your member team up with our enemies in TI for LD. the hard for us is that he's the lurer. what is the normal way for wrecking LD? shooting the lurer off the mount or pk that lurer, but he's in Sinister, not AS. Can you make clear with your members that they can team with anyone they want for LD, but if they team with either Triangles or Redemption alliance people, dont be panic to be wrecked by us or Redemption?

And here is my thought for your 2 scenarios:
scenario 1: not only you are new. we used to be new to this game too. First time I experienced was that our enemies used a low level voodoo char. then come to pk us when they saw us in pk mode. we thought that we could fight back because they hit us first, but sorry no. After killed her, she revived herself fast and hit again, killed her second time...then here we got triple crimes. then their main people jumped in to kill. Second times, when they robbed our traders, we came out to help, they used low level char. to pk us, when we killed that low level we got crime. We had to go back town and leave them there alone to rob our traders. Still have more and more... all happen because they know well about this game pk rules.

Scenario 2: I thought I have given you an idea above. However, think about this. Why do you team up with either Triangles or Redemption people? because they're your friends... and what do you do when your friends got pk by others? of course the normal react is trying to help your friends. You dont want to fight, but accidentally drag you into it by this way. I have seen my friends react couple times about this case already, so I stop them right away before they get involved. I just said dont do anything, let us fight and play with them.

If you step back, and look into the situation as a whole you can see why this is happened. It's natural for people to react in some cases.

[zvodoz]

Sorry guys, I get a bit tired for explaining one thing over and over. Hope you try your ways to enjoy this game. Good luck.

[sook11]

hi,guys:)..i m representing maja guild about this matter..so.let us share opinion about this matter..

Pls guy ,we dont want to hold grudge again u guys..and i f anyone (especially Butterfly) get offended by our member or so..pls forgive that..as u can know..we are trying to avoiding war and enjoy the game as much as we can..:)

DeadHeart said to us ,she joined our guild because she want to avoid war between u guys,but we didnt know anything about her doing in the past or her mistake in the past,and we wont bother to know,either.When he first joined ,too..we even didnt know that DeadHeart is destiny alt..

we want to get cleared this fact as we got it from Deadheart. About 'DeadHeart join war again u guys' is in fact she want to get help from anyone she can to help her-she is hunted by butterfly-..and ,sadly..we cant do that since we cant get to involve with anyone personal problem and this can create anything bigger problem..same as dragonjeff with Elegance about this matter..,and as she wanted to get help ,she chance to get help from AllStar and DeathGod member,her ex guild,or her friend..

And the thing that we dont understand,Butterfly start accusing us protecting her and start threatening us to kill our member-he rob our trader and kill our fishermans-if we dont kick Deadheart from our guild:eek:..how can we do that?..and as the thing goin on,we think that he looked down upon our guild..how can butterfly ask us what to do ,he dont have the right to do that..and thats the reason we fought butterfly..

And,we have had mistake once,when u were all at war and at that time, we also war butterfly:(,that would cause the rumour that we helping AS and DG,for that we apologized for u all.. and had already spoken it to your leader..

And,for ButterFly ,try to cooldown a little bit..and if u get offended by anyone of our member,we apologized for that..we dont want to ruin the enjoyment of the game for all..and if we have someone or anyone willing to mediate over this problem,we gladly agree with that..:D..thanks..

[Painrinnegan]

i hv a good idea - why dont u hold a poll abt the most hated alliance?

[DickTracy]

Well firstly just ignoring all jimmys perturbed comments... Im not psychologist but if you bring one here and he/she just look at jimmys pic and see the attitude that boy has on the pic he shows, will say for sure jimmy has some minds problem hes a perturbed guy that needs to be center of attention by doing any stupid thing in this case comming with tottaly outta topic senseless retarted perturbed comments... ok cleared this off we can continue with the constructive part of this topic which is Solve problems :)

Really nice to see a Maja voice on here and as I said before we dont have any issue with you myself pt with your members a lot really nice ppl!...

The point is Deadheart/Destiny she/he joint Maja and promise not more war.. prmise to us and even promise to you Maja as joining you... But then what happens... doing LD on TI comes a group of AS to wreck and there is he/she helping then wrecking us... So here is my question. Where is the part when he/she proclame self as Neutral?.. And Hey Hey Hey I must acclear this point, It is not Deadheart/Destiny asking for help to AS/DG becasue BF is pk him/her, No, Its not that way, Im sure because I was there when it happened, BF started pk her/him again, After the LD issue happened with infact we didnt have any idea of he/she joint Maja, On that point on that day the surprise to all us was that... So he/she came as Maja member and help AS to wreck us while LD, After that issue BF start pk him/her again, So is Not that he/shes comming out as the victim clamming for help of their old partners, is not that way as he/she wants to show up. It all started after that issue and as I said I was there so i can talk with Rights!. Same goes to G4nster when your new members promise not warring but they still do... Certanly I cant talk for BF, But I can talk for myself and Im sure most of alliance think same for sure we aint gonna pk any of your real members but for sure as long as your new members comming from enemy guilds keep warring for sure we will pk them all.

Cerntailly I think is not fair to demand that you kick those new members, And Id like BF to think about this because the point still is no matter the guild they join as long as they keep warring well have the right to pk them as our own protection, and this is what you must be ok with BF, no point pk really neutral members but you and we all as alliance can still keep pking the ones comming from enemy guilds as long as they keep warring. Appart BF now you must see Maja is offering a public appologgies so theres no point pk their really neutral members just the still warring ones comming from enemy guilds on which of course all alliance agree with.. cuz all they been promise not warring but they never keep their word.

So once again really nice and appretiated to hear Maja voice on here and same way offer you all appologies if any inconvenient we could casue to your reall neutral members.

So thanks to all to say your minds about and welcome all constructives and possitve comments to make this all better for all :cool:

[tuckahole99]

hi,guys:)..i m representing maja guild about this matter..so.let us share opinion about this matter..

Pls guy ,we dont want to hold grudge again u guys..and i f anyone (especially Butterfly) get offended by our member or so..pls forgive that..as u can know..we are trying to avoiding war and enjoy the game as much as we can..:)

DeadHeart said to us ,she joined our guild because she want to avoid war between u guys,but we didnt know anything about her doing in the past or her mistake in the past,and we wont bother to know,either.When he first joined ,too..we even didnt know that DeadHeart is destiny alt..

we want to get cleared this fact as we got it from Deadheart. About 'DeadHeart join war again u guys' is in fact she want to get help from anyone she can to help her-she is hunted by butterfly-..and ,sadly..we cant do that since we cant get to involve with anyone personal problem and this can create anything bigger problem..same as dragonjeff with Elegance about this matter..,and as she wanted to get help ,she chance to get help from AllStar and DeathGod member,her ex guild,or her friend..

And the thing that we dont understand,Butterfly start accusing us protecting her and start threatening us to kill our member-he rob our trader and kill our fishermans-if we dont kick Deadheart from our guild:eek:..how can we do that?..and as the thing goin on,we think that he looked down upon our guild..how can butterfly ask us what to do ,he dont have the right to do that..and thats the reason we fought butterfly..

And,we have had mistake once,when u were all at war and at that time, we also war butterfly:(,that would cause the rumour that we helping AS and DG,for that we apologized for u all.. and had already spoken it to your leader..

And,for ButterFly ,try to cooldown a little bit..and if u get offended by anyone of our member,we apologized for that..we dont want to ruin the enjoyment of the game for all..and if we have someone or anyone willing to mediate over this problem,we gladly agree with that..:D..thanks..

true i dont have the right to ask u to kik her but u also dont ahve the right to tell me to stop pk her or robbin this is just me doin nothin to do with my guild or alliance so dont send msg compalin about me u got isssue come hunt me i careless ther no rules against robbin so stop crying

[tuckahole99]

Well firstly just ignoring all jimmys perturbed comments... Im not psychologist but if you bring one here and he/she just look at jimmys pic and see the attitude that boy has on the pic he shows, will say for sure jimmy has some minds problem hes a perturbed guy that needs to be center of attention by doing any stupid thing in this case comming with tottaly outta topic senseless retarted perturbed comments... ok cleared this off we can continue with the constructive part of this topic which is Solve problems :)

Really nice to see a Maja voice on here and as I said before we dont have any issue with you myself pt with your members a lot really nice ppl!...

The point is Deadheart/Destiny she/he joint Maja and promise not more war.. prmise to us and even promise to you Maja as joining you... But then what happens... doing LD on TI comes a group of AS to wreck and there is he/she helping then wrecking us... So here is my question. Where is the part when he/she proclame self as Neutral?.. And Hey Hey Hey I must acclear this point, It is not Deadheart/Destiny asking for help to AS/DG becasue BF is pk him/her, No, Its not that way, Im sure because I was there when it happened, BF started pk her/him again, After the LD issue happened with infact we didnt have any idea of he/she joint Maja, On that point on that day the surprise to all us was that... So he/she came as Maja member and help AS to wreck us while LD, After that issue BF start pk him/her again, So is Not that he/shes comming out as the victim clamming for help of their old partners, is not that way as he/she wants to show up. It all started after that issue and as I said I was there so i can talk with Rights!. Same goes to G4nster when your new members promise not warring but they still do... Certanly I cant talk for BF, But I can talk for myself and Im sure most of alliance think same for sure we aint gonna pk any of your real members but for sure as long as your new members comming from enemy guilds keep warring for sure we will pk them all.

Cerntailly I think is not fair to demand that you kick those new members, And Id like BF to think about this because the point still is no matter the guild they join as long as they keep warring well have the right to pk them as our own protection, and this is what you must be ok with BF, no point pk really neutral members but you and we all as alliance can still keep pking the ones comming from enemy guilds as long as they keep warring. Appart BF now you must see Maja is offering a public appologgies so theres no point pk their really neutral members just the still warring ones comming from enemy guilds on which of course all alliance agree with.. cuz all they been promise not warring but they never keep their word.

So once again really nice and appretiated to hear Maja voice on here and same way offer you all appologies if any inconvenient we could casue to your reall neutral members.

So thanks to all to say your minds about and welcome all constructives and possitve comments to make this all better for all :cool:

completely agree here alot ex allstar members left and claim themslef as nuetral but yet whnever war involve they comin to help allstar as for deadheart u can believed whatever she said we know how she is

[Ka]

, After the LD issue happened with infact we didnt have any idea of he/she joint Maja, On that point on that day the surprise to all us was that... So he/she came as Maja member and help AS to wreck us while LD, After that issue BF start pk him/her again, So is Not that he/shes comming out as the victim clamming for help of their old partners, is not that way as he/she wants to show up. It all started after that issue and as I said I was there so i can talk with Rights![/B]. Same goes to G4nster when your new members promise not warring but they still do... Certanly I cant talk for BF, But I can talk for myself and Im sure most of alliance think same for sure we aint gonna pk any of your real members but for sure as long as your new members comming from enemy guilds keep warring for sure we will pk them all.


funny, Maja is an Indonesian only guild :) I doubt that her action of joining have some string attached :P

I remember the day that she told our guild "If I divorce Yellow, you guys won't attack me anymore right ?". She did divorce after, but then she marry yellow's noob account (Ryang at that time) =)) Then she yell that that our whole alliance didn't keep our word on the deal thing =))

[tuckahole99]

duely noted about the addicter thing, but as i've tried with several of the leadership roles in the alliance, i simply get told "i dunno what to do about that", so it doesn't go very far sadly it seems. As for the war thing, we did join the alliance for protection, and also for the doandu thing, when he joined the guild, it was about a week later before anyone had told us anything, to be quite honest, we didn't even know about the war at that time, and didn't think it was anything big or important, considering we were all low level in the guild at the time, highest lvl was 65 and that was me, and we had only been playing for about 4-5 weeks when he joined, so it's not like we are very knowledgeable about what's going on in the server, we were simply trying to lvl up and enjoy the game, and we saw a lvl 90 wanting to join the guild o.o so we accepted him lol, natural reactions. Then when we had 1 person, butterfly, "warn" us about him, i took it into consideration but nothing was happening at the time to take it serious.

Then butterfly started to kill us (doandu at this point was not killing people THAT WE KNOW OF), shortly after butterfly started killing our people is when we noticed doandu killing warlord members, and it went from there. In doandu's time at sinister, he spent a good amount of time doing guild quests and such to get the pharmacy building up and such, when we finally realized the true scope of the war and who all was actually involved in it, we decided that we didn't want a part of it.

Due to doandu's contribution to the guild in guild quests and the building construction, we didn't want to simply put him flat on his kaboos, i'm not that type of person. So we made a deal, that when the construction of the building was finished, and he got his higher lvl pharmacy skill, he would leave the guild, and it finished, and he left. We also had altercations with our own alliance due to now we simply wanted the alliance for easy partying access, and high lvl players on demand for question answering about higher lvl things we were just coming into doing. Stuff hit the fan when we started acting neutral (by partying with the other alliance as well) and well we were removed from the alliance, which is fine by us, cuz it only shows our neutrality more so, so less confusion happens.

information is a powerful tool, and instead of leaving people to assume and imagine what they want to assume and imagine, i'd rather people hear the truth and hopefully they will know more and react differently since there is more information about it.

We're still not exactly sure why/how this war got started, and why it involves so many people simply "hating" each other, but we don't want a part of it. We will continue to party Redemption alliance members, and Triangle alliance members, just cuz we show up to something, or we do something with a side of this war, doesn't mean that we're part of their beef. If we're gonna have beef with someone, we want it to be worth having, not just cuz it's someone else's mess.

1 fact here doandu usin u guys to war us if he want to lvl up up pharmacy skil he can jion deathgod his other alliance fo r it their city already lvl 5

[tuckahole99]

Well i think u shud change ur PK rule... recently BF in ur ALLIANCE has provoked a neutral peaceful guild to war and wants our whole ally to war ur ally :p and u say u are right and dont pk innocent LOL What u say here doesnt imply in game and u ppl kill who ever u want :eek:

first of all dark if ur guild claim nuetral dont recruit ex allstar member like laosuperstar she the one get ur guild involve not liek we dont give her a chance if she join ur guild claim nuetral then dont get her nose inovle when we at war with allstar

[tuckahole99]

Yap now i see that BF does watever he wants and rob innocent traders and start war n none of em in ALLIANCE can do anything abt it :rolleyes: its true that these rules are jus for show off and make em look good

u not in our alliance u know how many times subzero rob our traders dont act dump and how manytimes allstar war us kill our members sub is a cowrd rob then hide with assain skill same goes with pirnce and dragonfly they use joker to rob us y dont u mention that

[tuckahole99]

how come i dont see any other nuetral guild complain in here but Mahja and gangster b/c u lettin ex allstar in ur guild who claim they wil stay nuetral yet whenver war they runnin to TI to bark along with allstar so dont blame me u guys the one that broke the code

[darkknightX]

first of all dark if ur guild claim nuetral dont recruit ex allstar member like laosuperstar she the one get ur guild involve not liek we dont give her a chance if she join ur guild claim nuetral then dont get her nose inovle when we at war with allstar

i already said if any member joins us WE WILL NOT HELP or SAVE HIM/HER u are free to kill THAT PERSON any where u want but killing our members n robbing us and telling us wat u do or telling kick or il rob thats not fair u hav prob with THAT PERSON not us so take it to them

[darkknightX]

u not in our alliance u know how many times subzero rob our traders dont act dump and how manytimes allstar war us kill our members sub is a cowrd rob then hide with assain skill same goes with pirnce and dragonfly they use joker to rob us y dont u mention that

look i dont care if AS robs ur guild or u rob em thats ur war but dragging other guilds in middle thats wrong and ur so called rule said NOT TO PROVOKE OTHER GUILDS this cud hav been solved with tlking but that day u didnt listen or tried reasoning with me

[darkknightX]

i dont know y u take things sooo personally its jus a game we are here to hav fun... u dont hav to take thngs to ur heart LMAO u hav a really big ego and u r hot headed... jus try to relax and listen to some1 for once :D

[SubZero]

u not in our alliance u know how many times subzero rob our traders dont act dump and how manytimes allstar war us kill our members sub is a cowrd rob then hide with assain skill same goes with pirnce and dragonfly they use joker to rob us y dont u mention that

this is funny LOLLLLLOLLLLLOLLL LOOOOOOOL O LO L

[Mippithedork]

look i dont care if AS robs ur guild or u rob em thats ur war but dragging other guilds in middle thats wrong and ur so called rule said NOT TO PROVOKE OTHER GUILDS this cud hav been solved with tlking but that day u didnt listen or tried reasoning with me

quoted for the truth!

i see butterfly saying, what he's doing is his own action, not the guild or alliances, but, if someone in a guild does something, it's not "their" action, is the "guilds and alliances" action. Hypocrisy, gotta love the flavor, but i'm sure it was "different" lol. Anyways, I know butterfly is a bit better then he was to us a while back, so i'm not looking to provoke anything of course. I see that his stance is NOW if it's you're problem it's you're problem, and if it's their problem, then it's their problem, i'd like to see this stance fluent and congruent through all his behaviors, it's a nice taste of freshness, and it'll be nice to see it continue this way :)

and that is how it should be, IF YOU have a problem with a person in a neutral guild, DON'T involve your guild, or the other guild, that is THEIR personal crap, and no need to drag more people into it. If butterfly doesn't like so and so, then he should kill so and so, not the guild that person is in. Same for others, there is no need to turn something small and petty into a full blown war, just cuz someone's butt is hurt from something.

[Painrinnegan]

no problem virus - u and minnt and dini r bcoming 9X soon

[Mippithedork]

no problem virus - u and minnt and dini r bcoming 9X soon

we're not looking to become what we dislike most in this game, we're up and coming underdogs, we won't go looking for a fight, but when we reach 9x, when people do come looking for a fight, they'll soon be running for the nearest exit.

[greetingfromohio]

we're not looking to become what we dislike most in this game, we're up and coming underdogs, we won't go looking for a fight, but when we reach 9x, when people do come looking for a fight, they'll soon be running for the nearest exit.

Lol , listen to urself...lol..ur members got attacked u didnt even show up..geez

[4nt0n]

peace and love that what i can only say,

for neutral guild u ask for not to being provoke please don't provoke too, by accepting people to neutral alliance day after they leave the war "especially the one have bad reputation" is same like provoke for me "did u guys think too?", at least let them guileless for couple week or month before accepting them to release some tension first.

And if u want our alliance try handles our member then u need handles your member to, kick the want that still war and help the side that war think that is fair "neutral is not take side, if your member join war how can your guild say as neutral?".

Do to other people what u want other people do to u!!!!

:D:D

PEACE AND LOVE

[Mippithedork]

Lol , listen to urself...lol..ur members got attacked u didnt even show up..geez

yes, contrary to belief, i am in fact not human, i don't sleep, eat, shower, shave, or even see the sun, i'm never afk, i'm never busy, and i'm never offline.

thank you for blowing my secret out to the public, truly thanks -.-

[DickTracy]

look i dont care if AS robs ur guild or u rob em thats ur war but dragging other guilds in middle thats wrong and ur so called rule said NOT TO PROVOKE OTHER GUILDS this cud hav been solved with tlking but that day u didnt listen or tried reasoning with me

We are not provoking any real neutral guild and as BF said before why then no others neutral guilds come here complaining about... Its not cassuality my friend that the only 3 guilds here complaining about are the ones that have accepted enemy members with the excuse of being neutral now what weve all seen just lies. However I salut your decition of not supporting them if they get involved on war issues as they been doing. In other hand with Maja all clear now

Now that Sinister showing up again and of course Serenity, I will clearly say for Sinister their Neutral Status its Randomly.. Sometimes theyre just pacefull that you forget about their existence and thats ok... But sometimes their members or in fact their leader come accross involved into a war issued and as always by the hand of AllStars and this the bad point for them...

Serenity as long as Joker(Prince/DragonFly) Alts to rob and wreck our members still be there of course this guild is not neutral so they can still being pk and robed.

And as BF said before, for all of your guilds that are neutral... Dont you see that AllStars members are cleary using you to their own benefit... Think about and annalyse the facts.

End of it all clear.

[Harsh Kumar]

Inference
Join Triangles or be killed n well if u die don't fret coz "they" have lost their reasoning amidst some wormhole in which its resting cosily n reluctant to be enlightened again for good.




u guys remind me of death eaters...only pure blood should be allowed to live lol
ref Harry Potter

[Harsh Kumar]

yes, contrary to belief, i am in fact not human, i don't sleep, eat, shower, shave, or even see the sun, i'm never afk, i'm never busy, and i'm never offline.

thank you for blowing my secret out to the public, truly thanks -.-

lol
great going

[Mippithedork]

Now that Sinister showing up again and of course Serenity, I will clearly say for Sinister their Neutral Status its Randomly.. Sometimes theyre just pacefull that you forget about their existence and thats ok... But sometimes their members or in fact their leader come accross involved into a war issued and as always by the hand of AllStars and this the bad point for them...

i don't think you're quite grasping the concept of "REACTION vs ACTION", someone takes an action against our guild, or rather a member/members of the guild, then when confronted about their reasoning, it's some snot about the war and yada yada. Now, i don't know about you, but myself, and many others in my guild, aren't easily pushed over. We're not going to be told WHAT to do, or HOW to do it by someone else, simply due to the fact that some people have a bully complex, this isn't our fault that they feel the need to bark orders around to other people and threaten their game play if they don't listen. So when someone takes an action against our people in the name of the "war", we react in the name of "reaction". If they kill us, attack us, ruin our things, guess what? we're not just going to take it and be like, well, i guess i'll just do something else... Nah it dont' work that way, so they react, and in some cases, they win, and then others are told that we are warring. So stop the nonsense with the false uneducated accusations of how or what my guild is doing, far far far too many times an hour/day/week people in triangle AND redemption messes with our guild, and i'm not quite sure what they expect? to just roll over and play dead? sorry, not going to do that. So again, they react.

Ya'll ACT, we REACT. Simple as that.

[Painrinnegan]

listen - sinister never war - their members see the war. And why do u thnk that a lvl 65 guild will fight a 9X guild - as virus said. And why u say Sinister??? Thw whole guild dont get into war. Virus may get into war as it hppens btwn high lvl teams - that doesnt mean sinister is getting into war. suppose now I kill a wl member - does that mean that the whole sinister is involved in a war? AND AS vIRUS SAID - he does not sleep, dont hv work, dont eat?? How can u xpct a prsn be in the game 24 hours.

[Painrinnegan]

Inference
Join Triangles or be killed n well if u die don't fret coz "they" have lost their reasoning amidst some wormhole in which its resting cosily n reluctant to be enlightened again for good.




u guys remind me of death eaters...only pure blood should be allowed to live lol
ref Harry Potter

why not a scnd Nazi?? ppls dont love a hitlar:o

[Harsh Kumar]

why not a scnd Nazi?? ppls dont love a hitlar:o

Hitler n Nazi's would have been a nice example but i did not want to go into that s**t. That might spark racist feeling.

[DickTracy]

i don't think you're quite grasping the concept of "REACTION vs ACTION", someone takes an action against our guild, or rather a member/members of the guild, then when confronted about their reasoning, it's some snot about the war and yada yada. Now, i don't know about you, but myself, and many others in my guild, aren't easily pushed over. We're not going to be told WHAT to do, or HOW to do it by someone else, simply due to the fact that some people have a bully complex, this isn't our fault that they feel the need to bark orders around to other people and threaten their game play if they don't listen. So when someone takes an action against our people in the name of the "war", we react in the name of "reaction". If they kill us, attack us, ruin our things, guess what? we're not just going to take it and be like, well, i guess i'll just do something else... Nah it dont' work that way, so they react, and in some cases, they win, and then others are told that we are warring. So stop the nonsense with the false uneducated accusations of how or what my guild is doing, far far far too many times an hour/day/week people in triangle AND redemption messes with our guild, and i'm not quite sure what they expect? to just roll over and play dead? sorry, not going to do that. So again, they react.

Ya'll ACT, we REACT. Simple as that.

What you see as an Action it is for us a Reaction... Now someone else said Sinister dont go wars... Ive even seen myself the Leaders indeed attacking our members, so dont come tell me dont go wars... I will say not recently true but as i said before thats part of the randomness neutrality of sinister.. Wonder how much time will pass till you show by casual on a war event again... That youre members being killed its a Reaction from us to the Action you taken when were part active on this war and when joined AS alliance. As yourself said Every Action You Take It Comes With A Reaction.

[Mippithedork]

What you see as an Action it is for us a Reaction... Now someone else said Sinister dont go wars... Ive even seen myself the Leaders indeed attacking our members, so dont come tell me dont go wars... I will say not recently true but as i said before thats part of the randomness neutrality of sinister.. Wonder how much time will pass till you show by casual on a war event again... That youre members being killed its a Reaction from us to the Action you taken when were part active on this war and when joined AS alliance. As yourself said Every Action You Take It Comes With A Reaction.

ever stop to think that those people that may be getting attacked have personally done stuff to our members in areas that is causing the reaction of my guildies attacking them? i can't tell you how often they get killed from LD's, grinding in yan tomb, hunting pets in pet hill, fishing, farming moral, grinding, boss hunting, afking, trading... well it's alot, and it's normally not even a single person, it's a small lil team here and there. there may be 2-3 people killing the guildie of mine, but only one of them can get the actual kill hit.

That guildie remembers that, and like i said, REACTIONS to ya'lls ACTIONS, so when the guildie sees that person, and an opportunity to exact revenge, yea, they are most likely going to take it, and i don't blame them. What ya'll see as an "act of war" isn't anything of the sort, it's aiming for someone that has PERSONALLY done them wrong, HENCE why the guild doesn't get involved, trust me, my guildies can form up, team up, and do some hurting, but we don't when it's a personal vendetta of realistic reason.

I KNOW whatever it is you THINK you saw, has a back story to it that you don't have a clue about. I'm 100% sure they were not attacked simply for being in a guild, or partying with someone. My guildies don't do that kinda crap like some of ya'lls may, sorry, we're just not like that. A good portion of my guild, i've played with of upwards of 4-5 years, across different games, i know how they are and i know them well.

So again, a lack of knowledge of a situation or cause, and then attempting to tell me "how it is", nah sorry, don't fly home boy. I'm fully aware of what's going on, how it's started, how it goes, and how it ends. And again, 99% of it wouldn't even be happening if the "leadership" knew how to have a conversation of some tact and poise, but maybe that's asking too much.

And i love how everyone keeps saying Sinister <3 AS... Ya'll either have selective reading, or ya'll don't read at all, but let me say it clearly once more.

All, and i mean ALL of these problems that we have with triangle alliance, we have with Redemption alliance as well. We get talked to the same, we get treated the same, we get killed the same, so how Sinister is buddy buddy with AS is all in your over vivid imaginations.

I have to say tho, each side has their people who know how to resolve things, have conversations without over emotional drama crap and high school bull snot. As a leader of a guild, i have to take a stand outside of myself many times in order to help resolve an issue, which, as ANY real leader knows is about 99% misunderstandings and miscommunications. ANY leader that doesn't know how to do this, or doesn't understand this truth, is honestly and frankly, not really a leader and simply someone trying to act bigger then they are (that list would have countless names). On Triangle side, i prefer talking to Addicter,Butterfly(oddly enough) and MrKain, and on Redemption side, GRiM, Allycat, jimmyasdf. Everyone else i've attempted to resolve things through was an utter failure, and mostly due to maturity levels, or a simply lack of care (which again isn't good for leadership role figures).

[jackywebb19]

god u guys, most of that was a huge waste of time to read.....
i dont pt non alliance members or anyone that is friendly with AS kus there is way to much involved in either explaining to my own alliance what im doing or keeping AS from flipping out.
:eek:<-----amazing emote....





XSonaX

[greetingfromohio]

ever stop to think that those people that may be getting attacked have personally done stuff to our members in areas that is causing the reaction of my guildies attacking them? i can't tell you how often they get killed from LD's, grinding in yan tomb, hunting pets in pet hill, fishing, farming moral, grinding, boss hunting, afking, trading... well it's alot, and it's normally not even a single person, it's a small lil team here and there. there may be 2-3 people killing the guildie of mine, but only one of them can get the actual kill hit.

That guildie remembers that, and like i said, REACTIONS to ya'lls ACTIONS, so when the guildie sees that person, and an opportunity to exact revenge, yea, they are most likely going to take it, and i don't blame them. What ya'll see as an "act of war" isn't anything of the sort, it's aiming for someone that has PERSONALLY done them wrong, HENCE why the guild doesn't get involved, trust me, my guildies can form up, team up, and do some hurting, but we don't when it's a personal vendetta of realistic reason.

I KNOW whatever it is you THINK you saw, has a back story to it that you don't have a clue about. I'm 100% sure they were not attacked simply for being in a guild, or partying with someone. My guildies don't do that kinda crap like some of ya'lls may, sorry, we're just not like that. A good portion of my guild, i've played with of upwards of 4-5 years, across different games, i know how they are and i know them well.

So again, a lack of knowledge of a situation or cause, and then attempting to tell me "how it is", nah sorry, don't fly home boy. I'm fully aware of what's going on, how it's started, how it goes, and how it ends. And again, 99% of it wouldn't even be happening if the "leadership" knew how to have a conversation of some tact and poise, but maybe that's asking too much.

And i love how everyone keeps saying Sinister <3 AS... Ya'll either have selective reading, or ya'll don't read at all, but let me say it clearly once more.

All, and i mean ALL of these problems that we have with triangle alliance, we have with Redemption alliance as well. We get talked to the same, we get treated the same, we get killed the same, so how Sinister is buddy buddy with AS is all in your over vivid imaginations.

I have to say tho, each side has their people who know how to resolve things, have conversations without over emotional drama crap and high school bull snot. As a leader of a guild, i have to take a stand outside of myself many times in order to help resolve an issue, which, as ANY real leader knows is about 99% misunderstandings and miscommunications. ANY leader that doesn't know how to do this, or doesn't understand this truth, is honestly and frankly, not really a leader and simply someone trying to act bigger then they are (that list would have countless names). On Triangle side, i prefer talking to Addicter,Butterfly(oddly enough) and MrKain, and on Redemption side, GRiM, Allycat, jimmyasdf. Everyone else i've attempted to resolve things through was an utter failure, and mostly due to maturity levels, or a simply lack of care (which again isn't good for leadership role figures).

hahaha, dear mr virus93, contradict to wat u said i think u 're the 1 that actually is acting bigger than you are, lol..reading all ur materials, its hard to believe that u're not giving these guys intructions of how to run THEIR ALLIANCE oh and by the way, its their alliance, not yours...I dunno about u guys, but i smell some weak sauce trying to talk big, got pked , brought his whole guild into troubles n get on forum to cry, u cant me pk me like this u cant pk me like that...If u know u weak...shut up, be lame, be weak , and shut up..people have the right to hate you for wat you said ok?dont wanna get pked ? get ur butt to PVE server mr 'Im cool, dont pk me'.

[Mippithedork]

hahaha, dear mr virus93, contradict to wat u said i think u 're the 1 that actually is acting bigger than you are, lol..reading all ur materials, its hard to believe that u're not giving these guys intructions of how to run THEIR ALLIANCE oh and by the way, its our alliance, not yours...I dunno about u guys, but i smell some weak sauce trying to talk big, got pked , brought his whole guild into troubles n get on forum to cry, u cant me pk me like this u cant pk me like that...If u know u weak...shut up, be lame, be weak , and shut up..people have the right to hate you for wat you said ok?dont wanna get pked ? get ur butt to PVE server mr 'Im cool, dont pk me'.

The day you say something that holds weight and continuity, i'll probably be more inept to respond back to you in a way that doesn't make you seem like child on a computer. This is the exact problem i'm talking about with communication issues, someone confronts a problem respectably, and instead of considering a resolution, or considering that fault could lie on both sides of the fence, there is merely finger pointing, childish antics, and more infectious negativity spewed out. If you think this helps, well bravo on being clueless, if you don't care, the bravo on being hypocritical. People who "don't care", don't care to respond, don't care enough to act the way you do, simply cuz they don't care. So i know it's not cuz you don't care, and i hope it's not the first one, cuz that's simply stupidity and i try not to think of people in that manner, so i'll assume that's it's confusion.

If you think i'm "weak" try again, i'm a known pvper, and i'm quite strong (not saying i'm the best, cuz i have still a ways to go). My guildies, most of them are strong as well, we can hold our own, i can assure that. Difference is, maybe maturity, maybe experience in gaming in general, maybe experience in life in general, maybe consideration of others and respect, but whatever is the reason, my guildies prefer an ENTERTAINING and FUN environment to play a game, not one full of drama, jealousy, callousness, bitterness, and negativity (which btw in case you weren't aware, tends to lead to the opposite of "entertainment and fun").

What i say isn't to scorn my fellow players, it's not to dictate their actions or their causes, it's not to order or tell people what to do, it's simply to get the point across that IF they want a more entertaining and fun environment for themselves and those that play around them, that there is a correct way to do it, and there is a way to not do it at all and just watch an infant community that is attempting to get it's grasp on "what it is to play dragon oath" fall into the same darkened shambles that many other GREAT games but bad community fall into.

As a video game developer myself, i tend to care a bit more about the over all community's evolution then the common player, and i understand this and i accept it to be what it is. This however does not change the fact that i will attempt everyday to help make a community more suitable for growth in a positive direction. I've seen too many good games (purely the game) get ruined by a bad community (purely the people). The game will never shape a community, but rather the community will always shape the game. If the community is ruined, the game will shortly follow it's lead. If you don't like the game that you invest that much time into each day, each week, each month, and for some the game that you invest money into, well why the hell are you playing it in the first place? For those that do like the game that they make these investments of time/money into, doesn't it make sense to care about it enough to make sure that it has longevity? that it's community is built well? that it's inviting to new players to join?

cuz hey, guess what? new players = more people to play with, more people = more potential token purchasers, more token purchasers = better support, better custom development of things, and better game ranking, which in turn starts the cycle over again.

However the players are joining, playing up, seeing that community get crappier the higher level you get, which a player then decides they are no longer wasting their time/money on a game that's community is headed in the wrong direction, or they get influenced by the community and then begin to follow in their footsteps. THIS is why i said it is up to the higher levels (and all players alike, but it's biggest impact can come from higher levels) to help shape this community into something good for growth. I mean if you've played long enough to have great pets, great level, great gear, etc etc, you obviously enjoy the game and it'd only make sense to want a community that you can enjoy just as much.

Anyways, the choice is each person's and their own alone, but don't expect me to stop for one second in trying to help this community become what i know is good for growth. i DO like this game, and i DO want to see it succeed as a great game, but this is mainly reliant on the community. Redemption and Triangle is a HUGE percentage of the higher levels in the game, which it only makes since to try to penetrate these ideals into first.

Also, since you seem pretty confused about this game as well, this isn't a PVP based game with grouping features, this is a GROUP based game with PVP features. So for those that say the nonsense like your last lil spew, get educated, then maybe you can act like you know what you're talking about.

[greetingfromohio]

The day you say something that holds weight and continuity, i'll probably be more inept to respond back to you in a way that doesn't make you seem like child on a computer. This is the exact problem i'm talking about with communication issues, someone confronts a problem respectably, and instead of considering a resolution, or considering that fault could lie on both sides of the fence, there is merely finger pointing, childish antics, and more infectious negativity spewed out. If you think this helps, well bravo on being clueless, if you don't care, the bravo on being hypocritical. People who "don't care", don't care to respond, don't care enough to act the way you do, simply cuz they don't care. So i know it's not cuz you don't care, and i hope it's not the first one, cuz that's simply stupidity and i try not to think of people in that manner, so i'll assume that's it's confusion.

If you think i'm "weak" try again, i'm a known pvper, and i'm quite strong (not saying i'm the best, cuz i have still a ways to go). My guildies, most of them are strong as well, we can hold our own, i can assure that. Difference is, maybe maturity, maybe experience in gaming in general, maybe experience in life in general, maybe consideration of others and respect, but whatever is the reason, my guildies prefer an ENTERTAINING and FUN environment to play a game, not one full of drama, jealousy, callousness, bitterness, and negativity (which btw in case you weren't aware, tends to lead to the opposite of "entertainment and fun").

What i say isn't to scorn my fellow players, it's not to dictate their actions or their causes, it's not to order or tell people what to do, it's simply to get the point across that IF they want a more entertaining and fun environment for themselves and those that play around them, that there is a correct way to do it, and there is a way to not do it at all and just watch an infant community that is attempting to get it's grasp on "what it is to play dragon oath" fall into the same darkened shambles that many other GREAT games but bad community fall into.

As a video game developer myself, i tend to care a bit more about the over all community's evolution then the common player, and i understand this and i accept it to be what it is. This however does not change the fact that i will attempt everyday to help make a community more suitable for growth in a positive direction. I've seen too many good games (purely the game) get ruined by a bad community (purely the people). The game will never shape a community, but rather the community will always shape the game. If the community is ruined, the game will shortly follow it's lead. If you don't like the game that you invest that much time into each day, each week, each month, and for some the game that you invest money into, well why the hell are you playing it in the first place? For those that do like the game that they make these investments of time/money into, doesn't it make sense to care about it enough to make sure that it has longevity? that it's community is built well? that it's inviting to new players to join?

cuz hey, guess what? new players = more people to play with, more people = more potential token purchasers, more token purchasers = better support, better custom development of things, and better game ranking, which in turn starts the cycle over again.

However the players are joining, playing up, seeing that community get crappier the higher level you get, which a player then decides they are no longer wasting their time/money on a game that's community is headed in the wrong direction, or they get influenced by the community and then begin to follow in their footsteps. THIS is why i said it is up to the higher levels (and all players alike, but it's biggest impact can come from higher levels) to help shape this community into something good for growth. I mean if you've played long enough to have great pets, great level, great gear, etc etc, you obviously enjoy the game and it'd only make sense to want a community that you can enjoy just as much.

Anyways, the choice is each person's and their own alone, but don't expect me to stop for one second in trying to help this community become what i know is good for growth. i DO like this game, and i DO want to see it succeed as a great game, but this is mainly reliant on the community. Redemption and Triangle is a HUGE percentage of the higher levels in the game, which it only makes since to try to penetrate these ideals into first.

Also, since you seem pretty confused about this game as well, this isn't a PVP based game with grouping features, this is a GROUP based game with PVP features. So for those that say the nonsense like your last lil spew, get educated, then maybe you can act like you know what you're talking about.

Well I dont get this numb nut, does any1 get it? he explained the reason he joined up with All Stars is to get protection from ButterFly that robbed his trader.. he got on and cried about some of his guildmates got killed more than 20times(which credidibility is stil unknown) and then wrote a reply saying he is strong, so do many of his guildmates, and can hold their own...so why the #@#$ bother crying in the 1st place? If u're that great, where the #$$# were u when they got robbed or Pked ? So u just like a "forum fighter" huh? or u just said it becos "some1 is trying to act bigger than he actually is" and when it comes to reality , u do nothing but cry like a baby

[Mippithedork]

Well I dont get this numb nut, does any1 get it? he explained the reason he joined up with All Stars is to get protection from ButterFly that robbed his trader.. he got on and cried about some of his guildmates got killed more than 20times(which credidibility is stil unknown) and then wrote a reply saying he is strong, so do many of his guildmates, and can hold their own...so why the #@#$ bother crying in the 1st place? If u're that great, where the #$$# were u when they got robbed or Pked ? So u just like a "forum fighter" huh? or u just said it becos "some1 is trying to act bigger than he actually is" and when it comes to reality , u do nothing but cry like a baby

prime example of what i'm referring to -.- congrats

[BOBOMAN]

LOL dude U guys make my eye hurts reading long Post... WEll wat i was to say is DarkKnight if u no Letting Lao in guild will get u in troouble.. Y would u let them in.. Common sense tell u to reject them... If u really wanna be nuetral u should had told ur alliance... I still see NightPrince letting MyNameIs in the guild when he use his Alt lvl 65 royal Chidoriz pt allstar and ld...... Basically wat AS and DG wanna do is drag ur alliance in the war and help them... Just kik them out and everything will be solve thats all i m saying


Thinking about y all of them is joining ur Alliance.. Y not other alliance?


All i m saying that is MyNameIs isnt nuetral he still pt AS Tell ur Alliance NightPrince

[BOBOMAN]

Virus No One likes ur GUild... When i had my Guild FaceLess ur Guild was bullying my guild cuz u got that Sht project in 1 week calling my guild crap and talk bad:p

[greetingfromohio]

Virus No One likes ur GUild... When i had my Guild FaceLess ur Guild was bullying my guild cuz u got that Sht project in 1 week calling my guild crap and talk bad:p

Lol ha, i hope mr'mouth bigger than his gun' read this, finally , a witness for wat so - called " difference of maturity"...yeah right...u can kiss my *** on that..now suck it up when u get bullied..oh wait no, they didnt bully u, they hate u for ur mouth...and stop crying. No1 gives a eff about u n ur guild who got pked especially when u did the same to the other guild, know wat im saying numb nut...btw nice covering" different lv of maturity, lmao..i spit on that:eek:
Some numb nuts spent 20 bucks on token n think they r brad pitt n agelina jolie or sth..help the community..my *** , why dont u go help urself when u get pked, so ppl here dont have to listen to ur crying evrynite especially when they are posted in some 'non of ur efing business' topic. Shame on u!

[Painrinnegan]

hahaha, dear mr virus93, contradict to wat u said i think u 're the 1 that actually is acting bigger than you are, lol..reading all ur materials, its hard to believe that u're not giving these guys intructions of how to run THEIR ALLIANCE oh and by the way, its their alliance, not yours...I dunno about u guys, but i smell some weak sauce trying to talk big, got pked , brought his whole guild into troubles n get on forum to cry, u cant me pk me like this u cant pk me like that...If u know u weak...shut up, be lame, be weak , and shut up..people have the right to hate you for wat you said ok?dont wanna get pked ? get ur butt to PVE server mr 'Im cool, dont pk me'.

listen mr - bef4 telling virus a weak pvper who gives xcuses to his loses - i will like to tell u abt dastand of WL - After losing to jimmy - his xcuse was - Hey WHY U BECAME INVISIBLE??? And listen why do u thnk that Sinister is very weak?? I mean we r not that strng but dont thnk us very weak aftr a lvl 65 shaolin like me decreased half life of "gameover" of ur alliance.:cool:

[cornchip]

Lol ha, i hope mr'mouth bigger than his gun' read this, finally , a witness for wat so - called " difference of maturity"...yeah right...u can kiss my *** on that..now suck it up when u get bullied..oh wait no, they didnt bully u, they hate u for ur mouth...and stop crying. No1 gives a eff about u n ur guild who got pked especially when u did the same to the other guild, know wat im saying numb nut...btw nice covering" different lv of maturity, lmao..i spit on that:eek:
Some numb nuts spent 20 bucks on token n think they r brad pitt n agelina jolie or sth..help the community..my *** , why dont u go help urself when u get pked, so ppl here dont have to listen to ur crying evrynite especially when they are posted in some 'non of ur efing business' topic. Shame on u!

Lmao, this guy has some good sense of humour. lol at angelina and brad pitt

[19darkhart97]

Lol ha, i hope mr'mouth bigger than his gun' read this, finally , a witness for wat so - called " difference of maturity"...yeah right...u can kiss my *** on that..now suck it up when u get bullied..oh wait no, they didnt bully u, they hate u for ur mouth...and stop crying. No1 gives a eff about u n ur guild who got pked especially when u did the same to the other guild, know wat im saying numb nut...btw nice covering" different lv of maturity, lmao..i spit on that:eek:
Some numb nuts spent 20 bucks on token n think they r brad pitt n agelina jolie or sth..help the community..my *** , why dont u go help urself when u get pked, so ppl here dont have to listen to ur crying evrynite especially when they are posted in some 'non of ur efing business' topic. Shame on u!

All right then you fight him! See how you like it. He'll take you on anyday.

[greetingfromohio]

listen mr - bef4 telling virus a weak pvper who gives xcuses to his loses - i will like to tell u abt dastand of WL - After losing to jimmy - his xcuse was - Hey WHY U BECAME INVISIBLE??? And listen why do u thnk that Sinister is very weak?? I mean we r not that strng but dont thnk us very weak aftr a lvl 65 shaolin like me decreased half life of "gameover" of ur alliance.:cool:

Do u even know wat i meant lol...if u dont just shut up...dang...is it even relevant to wat i said...go learn some english dude...at least be as nice as virus to polish his words to cover for himself and his guild about maturity. Btw, having said that u decreased half hp of gameover n stuff...u're such a frog under the well thinking the sky is as big as the well, go around, make more friends , learn new stuff so ppl dont laugh at ur stupidity...dont just hang out with the think alike virus93 all the time.

[greetingfromohio]

All right then you fight him! See how you like it. He'll take you on anyday.

Oh no...no no no definitely not fighting him...if i hurt him..he'll get on the forum n start crying again...ive learnt my lesson looking at other ppl's example , tyvm

[DickTracy]

listen mr - bef4 telling virus a weak pvper who gives xcuses to his loses - i will like to tell u abt dastand of WL - After losing to jimmy - his xcuse was - Hey WHY U BECAME INVISIBLE??? And listen why do u thnk that Sinister is very weak?? I mean we r not that strng but dont thnk us very weak aftr a lvl 65 shaolin like me decreased half life of "gameover" of ur alliance.:cool:

haha I wont have why to deny it, theres nothing i have to feel ashame for, its true jimmy beated me in one match but that doesnt mean anything, appart its true invisible its a sins skill but if you see how many times he used it on that duel, it is ridiculous cowardly and still even all those time he had to be going invis, still barely beated me he was 1 hit to die... However lets say yes beated me... But the true point is that after that day he will never dare war me again, he will never jump me again when Im full hp or even being low hp cuz if he kill me Ill get back and send him free trip to inferno :D and thats his sadly true he cant match me face to face never again :cool:

Now for Mr. Virus... you are just saying same thing over and over again... that your guildies getting killed. wreck whiled ld, robed, etc etc,.. As I told you before all what its happening now its a Reactiong caused by the Action you taken when decided that joining AS alliance and being parted active on the War would be a great funny idea. Every Action generates Reaction, so now dont come crying on forum

[4nt0n]

hehehe i read this at my break at work, not to bad little humor chat and drama, we all need that.

And be strong, when u strong then u can do more for your self and for your friend.

Win and lose is natural, when u lose just get stronger so u can win next time.

in the end just have fun guys, we play for fun released stress "if not better work or do part time job", so just have fun.

[4nt0n]

On Triangle side, i prefer talking to Addicter,Butterfly(oddly enough) and MrKain, and on Redemption side, GRiM, Allycat, jimmyasdf. Everyone else i've attempted to resolve things through was an utter failure, and mostly due to maturity levels, or a simply lack of care (which again isn't good for leadership role figures).

I understand if u talk to mr.Kain, BF, or Addicter cause they word mean somethink in Alliance “but talk to Jimmy, Grim or Allycat?” I don’t think they word mean anything to redemption alliance, at least talk to DuanDu “AS Deputy” u guys help him before time to him to return a favor, or Prince leader of the alliance “one of my nemesis, strong but fun have nemesis like him”.

when I c Sinister reach guild lvl 5 in 1 month I think wow will be strong guild, but to bad sinister make wrong decision when join war with only member “6x7x8x”. I still wonder why? “if the reason DuanDu at that time DuanDu can learn in DathGod no need in Sinister, maybe just boring and want a little fun “play fire is dangerous can get burn”.

So for Sinister just prove that what u say is what u do, and have fun and get strong.

[v_jimmy]

haha I wont have why to deny it, theres nothing i have to feel ashame for, its true jimmy beated me in one match but that doesnt mean anything, appart its true invisible its a sins skill but if you see how many times he used it on that duel, it is ridiculous cowardly and still even all those time he had to be going invis, still barely beated me he was 1 hit to die... However lets say yes beated me... But the true point is that after that day he will never dare war me again, he will never jump me again when Im full hp or even being low hp cuz if he kill me Ill get back and send him free trip to inferno :D and thats his sadly true he cant match me face to face never again :cool:

Now for Mr. Virus... you are just saying same thing over and over again... that your guildies getting killed. wreck whiled ld, robed, etc etc,.. As I told you before all what its happening now its a Reactiong caused by the Action you taken when decided that joining AS alliance and being parted active on the War would be a great funny idea. Every Action generates Reaction, so now dont come crying on forum



LOL em still here.... wanna have a rematch netime?? nd u can hv some1 as refree for ur satisfaction. And yea if ur 1 hit can take my 20k hp then sure u were 1 hit away from beating me. As far as i remember, we had like 4-5 matches, result being same evrytime:D

[Painrinnegan]

Do u even know wat i meant lol...if u dont just shut up...dang...is it even relevant to wat i said...go learn some english dude...at least be as nice as virus to polish his words to cover for himself and his guild about maturity. Btw, having said that u decreased half hp of gameover n stuff...u're such a frog under the well thinking the sky is as big as the well, go around, make more friends , learn new stuff so ppl dont laugh at ur stupidity...dont just hang out with the think alike virus93 all the time.
Listen greet, I am playing this game longer than u - one thng I understood is an eye for an eye is the best way for dealing with some of the players. And yes bef4 telling me how to talk - learn urself. why - I thnk Addicter strated the post- hv u seen her posting here???? And if u thnk Virus is such a weak pker - why dont pk him and taste urself. U r crying in the forums bef4 the match. I thnk u r the one who first used harsh language in the forum. So, get ready to get some back.
For telling me a frog, i will say that -
When ur character was not even born - I was a 4X shaolin. U can ask Singh (vandematearm leader) and Dragonjeff. when they were 3X, i was a 4X. U r a frog greet - no not a frog but like a jackal - who always runs when he sees a dog.Dont u thnk that its obvios that a lvl 88 will beat a lvl 61. But when virus beat me he had lost only 1k or 2k.
And who r u to tell me abt frnds??? Listen, I was also once a warlords, Dont thnk u ever heard of serenity warlords conflict but I took part in those wars. i hv meet a lot of frnd and at least virus93, jimmy, minnt, Singh ,Love r better u. Specially Jimmy and minnt r very helpful and responsible.
Sinister dont leave their lvl 4X3X players to die as u do. I will not mention AllStras as their almost all players r 9X.
I dont hv to know a lot but just hv to know the thng that i need to know. u can do that if u wish.

[Painrinnegan]

[QUOTE=DickTracy;38637]haha I wont have why to deny it, theres nothing i have to feel ashame for, its true jimmy beated me in one match but that doesnt mean anything, appart its true invisible its a sins skill but if you see how many times he used it on that duel, it is ridiculous cowardly and still even all those time he had to be going invis, still barely beated me he was 1 hit to die... However lets say yes beated me... But the true point is that after that day he will never dare war me again, he will never jump me again when Im full hp or even being low hp cuz if he kill me Ill get back and send him free trip to inferno :D and thats his sadly true he cant match me face to face never again :cool:]
Oh ho - kk - i will beat all the ministrels if they dont set traps nd dont use frenzied fireball. Why dastand - if u r a shaolin didnt ur dispel worked???? And beating is beating and u 2 r players of same lvl. I thnk jimmy is low lvl -87 and u r 89. And if u dont hv a game plan for fighting against a sins - whats hes fault???:confused:Like there r some players with whom i always loose. I dont critisize thm (if they dont use jumpshoot)

[BOBOMAN]

Painrinnegan Wats ur IGN... WHen u pk virus93 and he lost 1-2k damage it is not that he is pro,, it is that u cant do damamge to anyone... All i m saying...:D

[greetingfromohio]

Listen greet, I am playing this game longer than u - one thng I understood is an eye for an eye is the best way for dealing with some of the players. And yes bef4 telling me how to talk - learn urself. why - I thnk Addicter strated the post- hv u seen her posting here???? And if u thnk Virus is such a weak pker - why dont pk him and taste urself. U r crying in the forums bef4 the match. I thnk u r the one who first used harsh language in the forum. So, get ready to get some back.
For telling me a frog, i will say that -
When ur character was not even born - I was a 4X shaolin. U can ask Singh (vandematearm leader) and Dragonjeff. when they were 3X, i was a 4X. U r a frog greet - no not a frog but like a jackal - who always runs when he sees a dog.Dont u thnk that its obvios that a lvl 88 will beat a lvl 61. But when virus beat me he had lost only 1k or 2k.
And who r u to tell me abt frnds??? Listen, I was also once a warlords, Dont thnk u ever heard of serenity warlords conflict but I took part in those wars. i hv meet a lot of frnd and at least virus93, jimmy, minnt, Singh ,Love r better u. Specially Jimmy and minnt r very helpful and responsible.
Sinister dont leave their lvl 4X3X players to die as u do. I will not mention AllStras as their almost all players r 9X.
I dont hv to know a lot but just hv to know the thng that i need to know. u can do that if u wish.

Jesus Christ, this frog...i give up..suit urself...go hang out with 'mr a lilttle bit bigger' frog virus93 n keep thinking evry1 is smaller than urself...sigh..i really have bow to u regardings ur ignorance n stupidity

[Mippithedork]

http://i33.tinypic.com/oa1b9y.png

i'm doing fine lolol don't worry, i know you care alot apparently, but really i'm ok :P

i love you all too <3333333 :)

[BOBOMAN]

OH god ur hit SUks I like ur Spi attack BUt ur hits needs to be increase lol how u gonna do damage to beggers

[Mippithedork]

OH god ur hit SUks I like ur Spi attack BUt ur hits needs to be increase lol how u gonna do damage to beggers

i'm about to socket all lvl 4 hit rate gems :P and dodge gems

i'm not near finished with this set of gear lol, by far, not complete, and i've got two GREAT crafts siting in my bank waiting for me to hit 85 that's going to bring up alot of my stats, and pretty much when i'm finished i'll have 60k hp, and roughly 21-22k spi attack lol, i'm doing fine :P sometimes i mislead people to think i'm weaker then i am, simply due to an opponent that underestimates you, is the best situation possible to win. If they are scared of you, they have way better odds of winning, simply due to the fact that they will be trying alot harder and fighting alot harder, then someone who thinks they can just walk over you, and then realize that they just had their asses handed to them.

there is a reason why most people don't pk me 1 v 1 and they bring a small lil army behind them, when i'm done with this 8x set, i'll be stronger then wing is now at 9x+, so when i hit 9x lol, it's going to be interesting ^_^

so like i said, i thank you for caring so much, but i'm doing ok :P

[Painrinnegan]

Jesus Christ, this frog...i give up..suit urself...go hang out with 'mr a lilttle bit bigger' frog virus93 n keep thinking evry1 is smaller than urself...sigh..i really have bow to u regardings ur ignorance n stupidity
why man feeling jealous?? that i was an old member of ur present guild and that i hv seen and understood the game more than u.:D:D

[greetingfromohio]

Oh dear, with that picture n he thinks he's pro omg...some of the ppl here can give u 2/3rd Hp advantage...and they dont even post their picture on the forum or claiming they r strong..see wat im saying...u weak , u lame but u dont know who you are...no wonder u got picked...Btw, got to admire ur arrogance , iggnorance n stupidity at the same time and do me a favor...next time dont post ur nubby pic on here..lol.. u made the 3x4x piss in their pants but sorry ..not us, my dear frogs in a well

[Mippithedork]

Oh dear, with that picture n he thinks he's pro omg...some of the ppl here can give u 2/3rd Hp advantage...and they dont even post their picture on the forum or claiming they r strong..see wat im saying...u weak , u lame but u dont know who you are...no wonder u got picked...Btw, got to admire ur arrogance , iggnorance n stupidity at the same time and do me a favor...next time dont post ur nubby pic on here..lol.. u made the 3x4x piss in their pants but sorry ..not us, my dear frogs in a well

you're like my biggest fan lol, you should create me a website for my fanclub, yea, you should definitely do that as lead virusette (it's what i call all my lady fans like you), it's your duty ^_^ thank you for the love <33333

however

reading isn't your strong point i see, but i guess neither is talking, umm, but hey it's not all bad :/ you are indeed very good at making a complete fool of yourself, so for that, you deserve a gold scratch and sniff sticker :)

congratulations on your accomplishment :) i'm sure it's the peak of your success lol

good night my lil buddy ^_^

[Armand]

Why are you all using this thread to flame? There is one designated for that. Obviously it's gotten way off topic. I think a clean and close is in order :P

[MetalSlug]

Closed for flames.

You are welcome to restart the thread, but please keep it clean this time guys.