View Full Version : Taoist vs. Royalty
pheonix_18
06-16-2011, 01:33 AM
Ok so this is basically the only class besides minstrel 65+ that any taoist should have any problems with. Pretty straight forward and anyone knows that uncanny attacker is the way to go... But then theres the issue of your element will basically do no extra damage due to their buffs and just one lvl 4 super topaz and its kinda over with your thunder... Its not like going full emerald will save you cause royalty has high natural hit and hit buff... Just a few garnets and we dont have much left to throw at them besides stunning and short spurts of attacks while kiting... Any advise on taking on royalties? Or wont i stand i chance against most till i have full lvl 4 gems :/ i lag a lot but can still kill a lot of players with little skill involved but it really takes a lot of effort for me to get a 9x royalty to 50% hp... Im not blaming lag or the 3 times more hp lol but any advice would be appreciated cause i want to do better against them and be able to kill them when i hit 9x. Also i know a player on nirvana whos name is dyoxide who is really really good at kiting but its hard for me to study what he does so any video footage would help too so i can see what other taoists do against royalties =D
tyvm in advance
Payne
06-16-2011, 05:42 AM
pheo firs of all mins with the rea;lse of lv 45 book have become weaken to spi class and since tao have now the higest spi def buff with lv 45 relic killing mins won't be a prob and about topaz well our spi will do what thunder can't do in pvp so keep spi atk high:)
Royalty:mad:
they r strong don't even think of trying to kill a royalty without atkeast having good hp or high ice atk since thunder won't do much . the one thing u should keep in mind about killing royalty is keeps ur stuns all chained our 2 contimous combo if ur atk stong enough u migh be able to bring him down half hp other wise u doomed and make sure ur Hidden weapon have skill like dot(dmg over time) and skill that stun oppenet cuz that will be the skill that will help u run away from royalty than come back with all cd done and atk with combo.And about Dyo yeah he is good he is able to kill roaylty but not the one above him with high gems and u know which roaylties i am talking about:D
darkknightX
06-16-2011, 09:04 AM
If ur having prob wid thunder then just buy crafts wid both Ice and thunder atks :D that way u dont have to worry abt thunder res on royalty, but royalty has the best def after Shao and they even got best hit rate and they also have dat res 22+ buff ><
If u wanna win against royalty thn u wud need all res atleast 70+ and this will lower the royalty damage alot and when they use their 100% rage u can always lock em :D even wen they use AOE just lock em lol
pheonix_18
06-16-2011, 02:04 PM
i went up against a 92 royal today and only got him to 50% but now that dark mentions lock, i didnt even use bubble blockade on him xD so a lot of royalties damage comes from their elements? If thats the case then i'll start adding resist gems sooner than i thought
darkknightX
06-17-2011, 04:10 AM
i went up against a 92 royal today and only got him to 50% but now that dark mentions lock, i didnt even use bubble blockade on him xD so a lot of royalties damage comes from their elements? If thats the case then i'll start adding resist gems sooner than i thought
yea royalty damage comes alot from elements and dats y most royalty go for 3+ elements and only way to reduce it is res gems n royalty in future wen we have 8x skill they will get 3 res randomly reduced to 0 x.x which will again make em strong but till thn to kill royalty all u need is high res :D
pheonix_18
06-17-2011, 06:40 AM
well by the time we get 80 relic skills, most of the good royalties would have quit xD but i get another stun so i can be safe for a few extra seconds. I wonder what would be 1st, 80 relic skills or lvl 5 gems, if its lvl 5 gems then im as good as dead cause even 40k spi wont help then if they can get higher hp, defense and element
darkknightX
06-17-2011, 07:47 AM
well by the time we get 80 relic skills, most of the good royalties would have quit xD but i get another stun so i can be safe for a few extra seconds. I wonder what would be 1st, 80 relic skills or lvl 5 gems, if its lvl 5 gems then im as good as dead cause even 40k spi wont help then if they can get higher hp, defense and element
well prob wid royalty is that they have to choose between all 4 elements and if they add all elements then they are wasting more slots in which they cud add phy/spi or crit or hit which means they wont have anything else other thn elements atk and also have to decide on which victory gem to add to reduce dat res :D and then getting a godly craft wid 100+ x4 elements is not ez so they have a limit to which they can add gems and i saw most of the royalty just get elements from crafts and not add much elements gems and not like other classes where they can focus on jus 1-2 elements and add just 1 victory gem.
But m sure u all know dis :p and yea Lv 5+ gems are beyond the reach for non token users :p so if token users get all Lv 5+ gems thn ul see only token ppl playing lol
pheonix_18
06-17-2011, 02:12 PM
yeah, im a token player but i think if the prices stay the way its now then we will need to pay like $100 per lvl 5 which is insane, i'll stay lvl 4 lol. My other problem is i cant play as much as i used to and miss out on people selking crafts :/ this also makes it harder for me to get better stats aside from gems
v_jimmy
07-10-2011, 11:41 AM
If both taoist and royalty are equally geared, then it comes down to whoever gets the first hit wins. If a tao can complete his/her first set of combos before the royalty can stun or mp drain(the choice of opening skill will depend on the player), then its pretty much win win from there for the tao.
And like dark said, use your bubble the moment royalty uses full rage.
IF both of u r using pets, then open with sleep and kill your enemy's pet first. Thats half the battle won.
DickTracy
07-11-2011, 03:46 AM
If both taoist and royalty are equally geared, then it comes down to whoever gets the first hit wins. If a tao can complete his/her first set of combos before the royalty can stun or mp drain(the choice of opening skill will depend on the player), then its pretty much win win from there for the tao.
And like dark said, use your bubble the moment royalty uses full rage.
IF both of u r using pets, then open with sleep and kill your enemy's pet first. Thats half the battle won.
^ That
Im not very Tao expert but for what Ive seen depends on that.
Who hit 1st hit twice :p
You must release all your combo before they lock you and start their combo on you. Resets your skills and starts your 2nd combo However you must do it right after their lock so they wont be able to interrupt your combo. Of course not considering extra lock from HW so you must watchout on this.
LoveMadrid
07-11-2011, 04:00 AM
^ That
Im not very Tao expert but for what Ive seen depends on that.
Who hit 1st hit twice :p
You must release all your combo before they lock you and start their combo on you. Resets your skills and starts your 2nd combo However you must do it right after their lock so they wont be able to interrupt your combo. Of course not considering extra lock from HW so you must watchout on this.
From my experiences with a tao, against high damage dealers, i use tranquilising touch, splendid wings right away instead of growing flame cuz thats when people interrupt the tao combo. And then abundant surround fairy finger, tranquiising trap, hw cast hw stun, reset, and then all again.
pheonix_18
07-11-2011, 05:49 AM
What i do is spam tranquilizing touch at start then wings of tourus followed by growing flame and while its charging i start spamming splendid wings so they dont get a chance to get anything in after growing flame hits. Then i use my hw seal which decreases defence over 2k followed by hw cast whick does direct damage. Next is the 2 damage skills (fiery fingers and ubundand surround) personaly i like the fiery fingers before ubundand cause it can increase damage dealt even more. By now wings of tourus will have 2-3 sec left. What i do next depends on the distance between me and the other player. If its close i use bubble blockade and use trelised trap while whe blockade is still running. This will make it cast as soon as the skill is over and then i teleport away and use ubundand surround and fiery fingers and leap out of range which will be a short route cause of the earlier tele. Then just rinse and repeat with the exeption of the 2 hw skills due to the fact that they dont reset like the other skills with the rage skill. If they still have hp left then either kite or tank it out if you can take it (dont tank an opponent you dont know well, you might just get a suprise and will most likely die very fast). Kiting will be your best bet. Royalty is really hard due to the thunder resistance and high hp. Whats even worse is the lack of defense a tao has and the direct damage capabilities of a royalty. I still have trouble with them and it might just stay a problem in 9x cause its not easy taking off 90k hp if i only got 34k xD not that i'll have 34k at 9x \(*.*)/
v_jimmy
07-11-2011, 09:03 AM
What i do is spam tranquilizing touch at start then wings of tourus followed by growing flame and while its charging i start spamming splendid wings so they dont get a chance to get anything in after growing flame hits. Then i use my hw seal which decreases defence over 2k followed by hw cast whick does direct damage. Next is the 2 damage skills (fiery fingers and ubundand surround) personaly i like the fiery fingers before ubundand cause it can increase damage dealt even more. By now wings of tourus will have 2-3 sec left. What i do next depends on the distance between me and the other player. If its close i use bubble blockade and use trelised trap while whe blockade is still running. This will make it cast as soon as the skill is over and then i teleport away and use ubundand surround and fiery fingers and leap out of range which will be a short route cause of the earlier tele. Then just rinse and repeat with the exeption of the 2 hw skills due to the fact that they dont reset like the other skills with the rage skill. If they still have hp left then either kite or tank it out if you can take it (dont tank an opponent you dont know well, you might just get a suprise and will most likely die very fast). Kiting will be your best bet. Royalty is really hard due to the thunder resistance and high hp. Whats even worse is the lack of defense a tao has and the direct damage capabilities of a royalty. I still have trouble with them and it might just stay a problem in 9x cause its not easy taking off 90k hp if i only got 34k xD not that i'll have 34k at 9x \(*.*)/
Put elemental resistance gems in your gears and you'll see the royalty hitting less than you :p (Assuming you put atleast 8 level 4 super resistance gems)
pheonix_18
07-18-2011, 02:12 PM
Yeah my plan was getting 2 of each resistance super lv4...